There's no need to wrap an emoticon inside any brackets. Just put the string of punctuation marks at the end of a sentence or paragraph. Emoticons are usually associated with the sentence or paragraph that precedes them. You don't tend to put a full stop after them either. This is one slight drawback, as it can play havoc with a screen reader looking for a full stop as a sign to pause at the end of a sentence. Like many things though, you adapt to this quite easily :-) Léonie. -- http://www.tink.co.uk/ -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Barry Hill Sent: 14 November 2008 11:59 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: An observation and a curiosity How is an emoticom used in a sentence? Is it just tagged on before the full stop, is it put in brackets or between the less than and greater than signs or is it just tagged on at the end of a paragraph after the full stop? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Léonie Watson" <tink@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 7:21 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: An observation and a curiosity They're called emoticons and they're very much part of communicating for and with sighted people. If you're interested in knowing more, I wrote a guide to emoticons which can be found on my website: http://www.tink.co.uk/content/emoticons.php Léonie. -- http://www.tink.co.uk/ _____ From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave Taylor Sent: 12 November 2008 10:59 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: An observation and a curiosity Well if we want to operate in the sighted world, I think we shouldn't take that attitude and we should develop a way of using them. If we want to decide we can't be bothered because it doesn't suit us, why shoul he world accommodate some of our needs when it doesn't suit them? I just think we need to go one way or the other, our own world with our own rules, or join in properly in as many ways as we can! Cheers Dave From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Beasley Sent: 12 November 2008 10:49 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: An observation and a curiosity Hfere Here! ----- Original Message ----- From: Carol Pearson <mailto:carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 10:46 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: An observation and a curiosity Well, here's my take on it! I don't use winks and smiles, or grins are about all I do use. The thing is, I don't remember the signs for them and so just write out the words within < and > signs to make them perfectly readable. I'm not on lists where there are more sighted people than blind, so why should I care! <Smiles> Hope that clarifies things a little for you! -- Carol carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ---- Original Message---- From: Amro Bilal To: Access-UK Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 9:24 PM Subject: [access-uk] An observation and a curiosity > Hi all, > > This might be OT, not really sure but here goes. > > I noticed on this list that people don't use smileys and winks such > as :) ;) etc. People rather write smile, wink and what have you. I've > never come across this practise on any other emailing list or > internet forum. It struck me that even literate computer users on > this list do that. So I wander, is there a reason for this practise? > Do Braille users find wink signs confusing for instance? Excuse my > ignorance, but I rely on my screen reader's speech output and I've > never had any problems with reading winks. I started doing what > everyone else does on this list and the Jaws list but never asked > why! > > If there's a good reason behind this I'd be glad to learn it. If > there isn't, then IMHO this is a bad habit. What applies to other > internet forums I believe should apply here too unless there's a > justification for doing otherwise. Am I being pedantic? 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