You need to be able to put in a sound effect. Now chuckle at that. Eleanor----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Taylor" <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 4:55 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: An observation and a curiosity
er, hello? we're blind on here. so, er, what does punctuation, er, looklike? And how does that relate to a face? Yes I know it does in the sightedworld, but it doesn't in our world does it. So, unless we add signs tobraille or them all, blind people won't remember them! Now, how the heck cani write a sly grin or a cheeky smile? Cheers Dave -----Original Message-----From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf OfChris Hallsworth Sent: 11 November 2008 22:46 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: An observation and a curiosity They do, but the emoticons wouldn't display as emoticons if you see what I mean; instead they'll display as strange characters. -- Chris Hallsworth e-mail: christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx MSN: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx skype: chrishallsworth7266 klango: chrishallsworth----- Original Message ----- From: "Amro Bilal" <amro_bilal@xxxxxxx>To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 10:06 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: An observation and a curiosity "Incidently, I don't hear any smilies when written with ;) or similar as i have the amount of punctuation and verbosity set very low to speed up the speech output. This does get confusing when someone asks a question about them, for instance!!"Sorry Mark didn't mean to confuse you! But couldn't ask about smilys withouttyping them using punctuation marks! OK. Wouldn't be an idea then to make Jaws use a similar dictionary forOutlook and IE to the one that is used with MSN? I mean, in your case Mark, how do you deal with emails from outside this list, internet forums and eventext messages? Do other screen readers have something akin to the Jaws dictionary? And re the point Chris made about Braille displays, do Braille displays not display punctuation marks correctly then?----- Original Message ----- From: Mark ThreadgoldTo: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 9:38 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: An observation and a curiosityThis goes back to the writing of html where the tag for starting a line ofcode is enclosed in the two signs such as <grin>. The end of the portion of code is represented by the same word in the characters but with a slash preceding it such as </grin>.Over time folks have simply stopped putting in the <> signs round the tag.Incidently, I don't hear any smilies when written with ;) or similar as i have the amount of punctuation and verbosity set very low to speed up the speech output. This does get confusing when someone asks a question about them, for instance!! hth, Mark Threadgold Of all the things I have ever lost, The one I miss most is my mind... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Amro Bilal Sent: 11 November 2008 21:25 To: Access-UK Subject: [access-uk] An observation and a curiosity Hi all, This might be OT, not really sure but here goes. I noticed on this list that people don't use smileys and winks such as :) ;) etc. People rather write smile, wink and what have you. I've never comeacross this practise on any other emailing list or internet forum. It struckme that even literate computer users on this list do that. So I wander, isthere a reason for this practise? Do Braille users find wink signs confusingfor instance? Excuse my ignorance, but I rely on my screen reader's speech output and I've never had any problems with reading winks. I started doingwhat everyone else does on this list and the Jaws list but never asked why!If there's a good reason behind this I'd be glad to learn it. If thereisn't, then IMHO this is a bad habit. What applies to other internet forumsI believe should apply here too unless there's a justification for doing otherwise. Am I being pedantic? Would love to here other people opinions! Cheers, Amro ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq
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