[access-uk] Re: AllofMP3 and credit card payments

  • From: "Iain Lackie" <ilackie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 21:14:20 +0100

One of the problems I have found is that with legitimate download sites the 
record companies are extremely slow to act when something goes wrong such as a 
file being corrupted or wrongly labelled. Indeed with one such site, the person 
I was dealing with got so fed up with the unwillingness of the record company 
to act that he bought the CD and put the uncorrupted tracks on the site 
himself. I bought Kate Bush's The Red Shoes from 7Digital only to find that two 
of the tracks were in effect missing. This was months ago and I am still 
waiting for the album to appear on the site properly. Certainly my money was 
refunded but the record companies cannot blame people for going elsewhere when 
they treat us customers in such a cavalier manner as if we are only cattle to 
be milked.

The good news is that not all record companies are as bad. The Chandos site I 
have found to be particularly good at responding to customer problems when they 
occur.

Iain
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  From: Ray's Home 
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  Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 12:48 PM
  Subject: [access-uk] Re: AllofMP3 and credit card payments


  Well, whether I'm seen as sad, unadventurous or whatever, I've never indulged 
myself in free download music or the likes of what's being talked about here.   
 For what it's worth the music I tend to listen to and buy - a lot of it 
locally produced and performed - I'd rather pay for.  I'm not so concerned 
about the plight of the conglomerates who control much of the record industry 
now, who've done no one any favours, to put it mildy, in the past.

  Anyway, Here's one blokes view of the Russian provider of such bounty.

  For those in Birmingham and the West midlands, this was taken from Adrian 
Goldberg's Stirrer blogg at:

  http://thestirrer.blogspot.com

  The Stirrer

  news that matters, campaigns that count

  for Birmingham, the Black Country and beyond
  FROM SURFER TO   PIRATE
  25-09-2006

  Edward Cameron on the Russian music download site that allows you   to 
rip-off major
  artists with their new releases.  Are they millionaires who   won't miss a 
few quid?
  Or should you take the moral high ground and cough up   the full cost?
  Get   out more? With albums for less than a quid why not stay   in?
  In my   frustration at not being able to find a particular classic album on 
CD or
  on   iTunes, I scoured the net for a downloadable version.
  To my   joy and amazement I found a music download website claiming to be 
legit and
  offering albums at around $0.88.
  The   site, musicmp3.ru is a Russian site where you credit your account with 
at least
  $20 to be allowed to download mp3s, songs playable even on Apple's notoriously
  incompatible iPod.
  For   those concerned about the wrath of EMI or Sony falling on them the site 
claims
  to be fully licensed.
  But   surely there must be a catch. Well, in the interests of investigative 
journalism
  and fresh from my victory against PayPal, I input my Mastercard number and got
  clicking.
  Within two hours I had downloaded the Best of Bowie, the   new Bob Dylan 
album, the
  Fratellis, Paolo Nutini, the Guillemots, Orson, Red Hot   Chili Peppers and 
Iron
  Maiden's latest. Don't judge my music tastes, just keep   reading.
  Doing   a bit of research through technology blogs I found the catch I was 
looking
  for.   With the site being based in Russia I was expecting my card to be 
debited
  with   several thousand pounds followed by a call from HSBC's Indian call 
centre.
  No,   nothing so far. And I did not awake this morning to find a new Russian 
wife
  sitting on my doorstep expecting her visa all filled in and a   job.
  So   what was it? Well it turns out that this is pretty much just as immoral 
as the
  old peer-to-peer music swaps spawned from Napster about six years ago when 
this
  whole mp3 thing started.
  What   you pay for is the downloaded file, irrelevant of the actual tune. 
It's cheap
  because the customer pays per megabyte rather than for the licence and 
royalties
  of the songs.
  Sadly   it means the artist makes absolutely nothing and by paying for it I've
  essentially funded piracy. But until the Russian government catches up and   
fights
  against this little loophole there's absolutely nothing anybody can   do.
  What   we're dealing with here is the effect of the internet on artists all 
over
  again.   Unfortunately the record companies got so greedy in the late 1990s 
that
  once we   realised there was an alternative to paying £13.99 for a CD they   
panicked.
  Instead of embracing the opportunities for the future of   music offered by 
Napster
  and its offspring, instead of buying the technology   from its creators, the 
fat-cats
  tried to suppress it. But technology marches on,   and with musicmp3.ru and 
its peers
  we are seeing the pirates' latest attempts to   not just make music cheaper, 
but
  to cash in as well.
  So   where do you stand? Will you still pay 79p per song or will you fund the 
  cheats?
  I for   one won't be going back to this site. iTunes is still pretty good 
value while
  buying a CD from play.com or other sites is significantly cheaper than it 
used to
  be. But like the hypocrite journo I am I certainly won't be wasting my $20 by 
  deleting
  my new tunes. And no, you can't have a copy.


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