[access-uk] Re: Accessible TV was Re: Re: Portset.

Hi James
On the rear of the Logik receiver there are two scart connections. One for TV and the other for VCR. A PVR is treated in just the same way as a VCR, so I don't see any reason why it should not work perfectly.
However if you did encounter a problem, you could always try connecting the free view box to your PVR using a standard co ax lead. Of course you would need to chekc that the PVR has an RF input, but I think the majority of them still have one. 

Darren.
----- Original Message ----- From: "James O'Dell" <jamesodell@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 
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Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 4:58 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Accessible TV was Re: Re: Portset.



Hi all
Just thought I would drop in here. My sighted partner and I were briefly considering buying the Portset box, but decided not to in the end after discovering the price, and because it is likely to be rather 'clunky' for a sighted person to use in comparison to a more standard unit.
we have just bought a Logik LDRV3 set-top-box from Currys and are very happy with it as a unit and also with the audio description output. We are now looking to get a standard Freeview PVR with a built-in DVD Player to replace an old DVD/VCR which is on its way out. I am assuming that, if we bought a PVR with a scart input, we would be able to record with AD from the Logik set-top-box onto the PVR. Does anyone know if this would be possible? If so, this setup will give us more flexibility than the Portset box, at a fraction of the cost. Of course things would be different if there were no eyes around to help schedule recordings and set things up, but fortunately we don't have that problem. 

Cheers

James
----- Original Message ----- From: "David W Wood" <g3yxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 2:54 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Portset.
Quite correct George, the crucial factor is the ability to receive broadcast 
TV images irrespective if they are on screen or not.

David


-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
George Bell
Sent: 02 December 2007 14:47
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Portset.

Sorry to contradict you here, Peter, but this is not
strictly true.

A blind friend of mine, who actually lives in sheltered
accommodation owned by a society for the blind, found this
out to his cost.

The TV spy van picked up that while he did not have a
television, he was recording the sound only part of TV
programs using a video recorder.

He was lucky in that he wasn't fined, but he still has to
pay 50% of the TV license fee to be able to continue doing
this.

George.

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Beasley
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 2:37 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Portset.

Wendyif you don't have an actual television you don't need a
licence.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Wendy Sharpe" <w.sharpe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 1:02 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Portset.


Ray

I would certainly never have bought one at full price, and
the only thing I
lack is a DVD player, but I have now sussed out how to play
DVD's on the PC
using Power DVD.

I have always thought that Portset's prices were way over
the top.  The
media centre does also have the facility to record
programmes, but there is
no way to transfer recordings from its internal disk or
whatever it uses to
another hard drive, on the PC for example.

Frankly, I was seriously thinking about giving up TV
altogether when we
finally switch over, as I refuse to have a TV and pay a
licence for
something I can't see.  I'm a mean person, I know, but there
is nobody else
here who wants to watch telly.

I got my media centre for £300, which I thought was a
bargain, and it is a
very nice piece of kit, but the original price is far too
high, and even
with competition from anything else which can talk, Portset
never seem to
drop their prices.

Wendy

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Ray's Home
Sent: 02 December 2007 12:51
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Portset.

Sorry, but I don't feel obliged to be overly-polite on this
one.  The
price ranging up to near a thousand quid has to be one of
the all-time
rip-offs, even considering the realities of access tech.  I
really
don't know why anyone with a PC would even consider it, and
that by
definition, is pretty well everyone on a list such as this
one.

You can hardly blame the guy for wanting to hold on to the
miche
market he had with the original teletext reciever, but times
have
moved on since then, I'm glad to say.

Still, as I've said to the original enquirer off-list, I can
hardly
criticise you if you really want to spend money in this way,
but
frankly, many wouldn't.

Cheers,

From Ray
I can be contacted off-list at:
mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx


-----Original Message-----
Gordon Keen


Strange, safari went straight to it and I've just browsed
through the
models available.
World wide weirdness!
Cheers
G
From glorious Devon, England.

On 2 Dec 2007, at 12:26, David W Wood wrote:


Hi Gordon - this link gives:

This page is not available

David



-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On

Behalf Of
Gordon Keen
Sent: 02 December 2007 12:16
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Gordon Keen
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Portset.

Hi
For alternatives check out:
http://www.tvhelp.org.uk/audes/equipment.index.html
Hopefully competition will force down prices in the not

too distant

future.

Cheers
G
From glorious Devon, England.

On 2 Dec 2007, at 11:03, Jackie Cairns wrote:



My only comment, and please feel free to jump on me if you

want

folks (though not literally) (smile), is that it's a

rip-off for

£620 or
whatever it costs.  I know it speaks, but £620 for that?

Phew!


I loved their Talking Teletext unit when I had mine, but

that was

when there wasn't so much information available elsewhere.

Certain

Freeview
boxes, while they don't provide speech navigation, do

offer Audio

Description, and there are also lots of DAISY players on

the market

to tap
into.  I just think it's well OTT.

Jackie

----- Original Message -----
From: sue morgan <mailto:sue@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 12:35 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Portset.

Hi list.

I've been reading about the Portset Accessible Freeview
Receiver and I'm quite interested in it.  I'm wondering if

anyone on

this
list has one, or knows anything about them.  I've listened

to the

audio demo
on the Portset website and it seems very accessible.

Any feedback would be grate as I'd love to have an
accessible freeview receiver.

Sue.
e-mail sue@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
mobile 07968825286
msn sue@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
skype suemorgan1006


Gordon Keen
gordonkeen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx


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