Again, Jackie, if I can help by looking at it, if you think the specs sound right, give me a shout!
-- Carol carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie Cairns" <cairnsplace@xxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 1:11 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible Internet Radio
I didn't keep the scanned destructions George. They were very straightforward, and didn't refer to anything remotely like we wanted to know. I had a quick look on the Internet for the Intempo manual, but couldn't come up with it.I see that John Lewis has a sophisticated Roberts Internet radio, and I've managed to download the manual for that. But John Lewis nearest to us is in Edinburgh, so I haven't done anything about looking at that radio yet.Shame eh? Jackie----- Original Message ----- From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 12:49 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible Internet RadioHi Jackie, Sounds like you've tried most things so far. Is there an electronic version of the destructions you can perhaps send me off list? I'm hoping somewhere there might be a clue where to find a user's support list or similar. It may even some technical bumf about accessing the unit via it's network port. It will doubtless have an IP address, but I suspect that may be allocated by a DNS server somewhere out in cyberspace. However without seeing any documentation, this is pure speculation. George. -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie Cairns Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 12:39 PM To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible Internet Radio Hi George We tried every combination we could think of. We logged onto the radio stations we had tried on the Internet radio, and they were very static and didn't cut out on the PC. Then we tried powering down all the PCs so that the Internet radio ran wirelessly on its own, which made no difference. Then we tried the Intempo Internet radio with an RJ45, and it still did it. Young Ian is always complaining about a high Ping rate, but he says a lot of his fellow gamers get that with their ISPs as well. We've also just had Sky supply a new modem as the other one's power supply packed in. The new modem seems to be fine, and everything else is working except this terrible cutting out and spluttering of the Internet radio. I'm quite happy to accept that given we've tried two different makes, with exactly the same result, there is a conflict. But because we can't access the radio without sighted assistance - which is limited even on a good day - it is difficult to know how to get round the problem. The destructions don't give any indication of what Steve suggested we try, so we are kind of stuck. It's very disappointing and frustrating. If anybody has any suggestions, I'd gladly like to hear them. Jackie----- Original Message ----- From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 12:25 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible Internet RadioHi Jackie, Have you totally ruled out your Internet connection here? You did say recently that young Ian was complaining histhatgames performance was affected by a bad Ping Rate. Are you by any chance able to access that radio station on your normal PC? If it coughs and splutters there too,thenat least you know it's not the box's fault. George. -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of JackieCairnsSent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 8:18 PM To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible Internet Radio Hi Steve Ian has scanned the destructions of the Bush, and there appears to be nothing in the manual about connecting via a PC, nor suggestions in the trouble-shooting section for any such problems we are experiencing. I really don't want to give up with this radio thingbecauseI'm getting sound out of it, though I preferred the Intempo to theBush.But I can't have it keep cutting out and jumping about like ascratchedrecord. The longer it is on, the more it does it, which is why Ididn'tnotice it for a little while yesterday. Everything else on our network is working ok, apart from young Ian's Ping when he plays Counter Strike online, but that's a different issue relating to the gaming server he is usingIthink. Hmmm. Will have to keep plodding away and see what I can come up with. This getting older stuff is a bad thing (smile). Jackie----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 6:08 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible Internet RadioHi Jackie, Are you sure these radios don't have a browser interfacefrom a PC? Theywill have an IP address, so you might be able to log intothem as you canwith a router. You may be able for example, to plug inyour radio usingan RJ45, configure it, then unplug it. I am certain it willhave an IPaddress, as all networking devices do have, but do theyhave a web-basedinterface? Check out the instruction bookie with youngIan, and you mayfind you can configure using a PC. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On BehalfOf Jackie Cairns Sent: 16 January 2008 17:46 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible Internet Radio Hi All Right, here is the latest on the accessibility ofInternetradio. I'vebeen messing around for over a day and have come up againstsome problems thatI'll share with you now so you know the score. Firstly, we picked the Intempo Internet radio from Argosat £119.99. Asit happened, it was one of the only choices of five they hadin stock, but itwas my first pick anyway. The Intempo came with wireless capability, and anethernetport. Moreimportantly, it had 99 presets and a remote control toallow you to key inthose presets directly. When Ian turned it on, he toldusthat thedisplay came up with the welcome logo, and then found thenetwork.Of course itcame up with Sky, and asked for our security key. Now inanswer toMarie's question, you have to use the dial to spin it round foreach letter ornumber you want to key in, then select it. This istotally useless for usby the way. Once it accepted the security key and proceeded to logonto our network,it asked whether we wanted Windows Media Player or stations.We selected thelatter. Then it wanted to know if we wanted genre orlocations, and weagain chose the latter. There was a massive list ofcountries, withAfghanistan at the top of the alphabetical list. Ianchose theNetherlands, and found Sky Radio, which came on after a few minutes ofwaiting. If youturned off the radio and turned it back on again, itdefaulted to the laststation we were listening to, so that was helpful. But after initially listening to the station, we startedto notice itcutting off altogether for maybe 30 seconds or so, thencoming back on.Then whatever was playing began to jump like the arm on arecord beingmoved over it at random. Senior Ian checked that this was not happening on SkyRadio using theInternet on the PC, and it stayed completely steady. Sowe tried theradio directly using the RJ45, and got the same results. Weturned all the PCsoff and just had the radio running, with the sameoutcome.We decided today that we would have to try another radioin case theIntempo had a fault. We knew it couldn't be our connection totheInternetbecause everything else has been working normally. So the onlyother radio Argoshad was a Bush at £89.99. They couldn't give us anotherIntempo as it wasthe only one they had, but were happy about refunding usour money.When we brought the Bush home and Ian went through thesame procedure, theexact same thing started to occur. This radio has 10presets and iswireless only. So now we have a dilemma. For some unknown reason, bothradios, bearingin mind they are different models altogether, do the samething when they areconnected to a radio station, whatever that stationhappens to be. Wetried Capital FM and the BBC, but it still did the same withboth sets.I have to be honest and say that these radios arecompletely inaccessiblefor a non-sighted person to navigate. Even if youremember that the radioasks you for genre or locations, and you manage toremember how many timesto go up and down the massive list in each category, youare on a hidingto nothing because you don't know any of the stationsavailable. We knewthis when we started out, so aren't so much frustrated aboutthat. What we hadplanned to do is pick a few of our favourites and storethem into thepresets. But if the radios don't have fast enoughprocessors, and keepdropping out or jumping, I don't know what the pleasureisin all honesty.Carol asked why it would not be simpler to just use a PC.I just wantedan Internet radio to be able to move it anywhere away fromthe computerwithout having it switched on all the time. For example, lyinginbed andlistening to something without being tied to a laptop would havebeen nice.Now guys, the positive thing is that I am currentlytalking to TNAUK abouttheir talking Internet radio. I can't say anything elseat the moment,but I'm in the process of bending their ear and arm (smile).When I knowmore, I'll certainly post it because I've no intention of beinginvolved in anytrial and then not compiling some sort of evaluationreview that be forall to read. If anyone has any ideas why these radios do this, I wouldbe fascinated toknow. I wonder if the processors aren't as fast, sotherefore havesmaller memory buffers. But how they sell on that basis, I don'tknow.Any comments welcome, on or off list. 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