[access-uk] Re: Accessible Internet Radio
- From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 22:21:36 -0000
Well Jackie, one thing we've always been good at in Britain is fudging
and half measures. The issue of stand-alone InternetRadios and the
associated DAB radio issue are, after all, only two examples of the
whole range of equipment embedding digital processing and using menus
through visual displays. You could multiply the examples these days
almost without end; i.e. DVD players, PvR's and so many household
gadgets too.
If disability legislation were ever to be really meaningful all of
these issues would have to be addressed. Not's let forget too the
issues of access facing other groups. It is because of the
wide-ranging implications of the 'crisis' to use Graham's word, that
we are facing that no one is prepared to breach the 'leave it up to
the market and Governments mustn't interfere' ideology that so
certainly holds back a legal solution to this problem.
So the fudging will consist of making a few devices available which
will no doubt be sanctioned, in effect, by those who claim to
represent us. Sorry if this is boring political stuff, but I cannot
see for the life of me (sic!) a way out of the crisis that Jonathan
Mosan for one saw around six or seven years back in the proliferation
of inaccessibility of so much of the machinery we use in daily living,
including at that time, cash points and mobile phones, to name but two
devices. The latter has been solved of course at a price! Cash
points are only one example of something we cannot make accessible by
individual forking out of money.
Its hard to see this situation as anything other than a creeping form
of apartheid..
Sorry for the rantish nature of this, but of course its an issue that
won't surface in any election or manifesto in what's left of my life.
Cheers,
From Ray
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-----Original Message-----
Jackie Cairns
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible Internet Radio
Well all I ask is that we don't leave it to the usual bunch of
bureaucrats,
or what we'll end up with is a product to suit that particular
organisation/charity that won't even cover half the accessibility
issues or
intended target we are looking for. Sorry, ever the cynic.
Jackie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Graham Page" <gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 8:47 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible Internet Radio
> hopefully George yes but there was a very pressing reason for speech
being
> included and that was safety while driving. We need an all
encompassing
> reason that applies here as well.
>
> I would like to think enough would be bought by people who need or
want
> speech included to make it worth while to manufacture but the Sonus
> Talking DAB radio for example is I believe no longer made presumably
> because it didn't sell enough. I wonder if it could be argued that
there
> are enough people with no or limited vision and the price is cheap
enough
> to make it a legal requirement to make digital radio, freeboxes etc.
> accessible as a reasonable adjustment under the DDA? I don't know
enough
> about the law t know for sure but the forthcomming accessibility
chrisis
> that this is increasingly becoming needs addressing some how.
>
> Cheers
>
> Graham
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 9:55 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible Internet Radio
>
>
>> Many have asked why use an Internet Radio when a PC will do
>> the same job?
>>
>> Speaking from what perhaps many will regard as a money
>> grabbing, commercial point of view, which we at
>> Techno-Vision Systems Ltd naturally are, I see the biggest
>> potential market as people, young or old, who quite simply
>> do not want to get into using a PC, but just want to listen
>> to broadcasts from their own country.
>>
>> Heck! In Northampton alone there are an estimated 15,000
>> Polish people who have moved here in the last couple of
>> years.
>>
>> Go to almost any major city in the U.K. and there are sure
>> to be huge clusters of foreign nationals who also want to
>> hear radio from their own country.
>>
>> Now as I see it, what manufacturers of this kind of
>> equipment need to do, is take a lesson from the GPS system
>> manufacturers. Was speech so difficult to add? Did it help
>> their sales? It wasn't difficult, and it did.
>>
>> And you can now buy a talking in-car GPS for about £100.
>> Three years ago it cost me almost £900 for one for my wife.
>>
>> So perhaps it won't be too long before the Internet radio
>> guys finally catch up!
>>
>> George.
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