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Thanks Steve,

Will do.  I didn't see any info on that on the site, but perhaps now I know
what I'm looking for I'll stand a better chance at finding it.  Hmm, renting
a screen reader - interesting thought - especially with restrictions on
licensing, but then again the pen drive versions get around that.

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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Steve Nutt
Sent: 01 February 2010 20:23
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessibilty and the iPad: First Impressions |
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Hi Hussein,

No, the 60 day demo is a one-off, and is dead when finished.  If you want
continuous, you want to check out their lease to own program.

All the best

Steve

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Hussein Patwa
Sent: Sunday 31 January 2010 11:48
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessibilty and the iPad: First Impressions |
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Hi,

True.  Mind you, the topic didn't half stir up debate on here!  I've just
spent the last hour going through all the messages that have built up in my
mailbox, and that's only since Friday!

BTW, on a totally separate topic, do you know if GW Micro limit their paid
60-day evaluation to one per user?  I.e, could you in theory pay $240 for a
year's usage of Window Eyes, rather than the $895 up front?  Obviously I'm
assuming you'd have to do a complete uninstall and re-install if the
evaluation uses some strange timer mechanism that sits in the registry, but
would GW Micro accept the repeated payments for an evaluation extension?

Also, does Window Eyes 7.0 support Windows 7 - note I ask about 7.0 and not
7.1.1.

Thanks, and now back to our regular programming.

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Sent: 31 January 2010 11:40
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessibilty and the iPad: First Impressions |
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Hi Hussein,

I totally agree with Ibrahim.  It is all right to complain about
overpricing, but how does one recoup costs for development?  And if
Microsoft built in a screen reader like Apple and it became the only choice,
how sad that would be.

All the best

Steve

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Sent: Sunday 31 January 2010 09:56
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessibilty and the iPad: First Impressions |
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Wow Ibrahim, enthusiastic much? 'grin'.

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Ibrahim Gucukoglu
Sent: 31 January 2010 07:56
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessibilty and the iPad: First Impressions |
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Hi Lyn.

Hang on a second.  You talk of over priced screen readers when you don't 
realize yet all they can do.  Does voice over on the Mac or IPhone have 
scripting capability? NO!  Do they have Braille support? no! (excepting 
grade one on the Mac).  Also, you fail to take in to account the massive 
selection of screen readers on pc's.  OK, jaws and window-eyes are the most 
common and at a higher price range, but System Access, NVDA and Narrator are

either inexpensive or free, providing varying degrees of accessibility to 
windows and its applications.  With the Mac and IPhone, you have the one 
screen reader take it or leave it, and to my mind if you've only one 
developer IE Apple who's primary concern isn't accessibility, you've got 
serious problems.  FS and GW Micro spend hundreds of thousands of dollars 
and many man hours developing their products to meet the ever more growing 
and complex demands of their customers.  Think what you like, but please 
don't fall over to promote apple and praise them as you would the lord just 
because they give you a built in screen reader.

All the best, Ibrahim.
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> James & tony,
> well said...no further comments to add after this. Hats off to Apple andI 
> know here, more and more blind people are showing interest in Mac OSX and 
> apple's built in accessibility.We have been ripped off all these years 
> with overly priced products that very few of us can afford anyway  if 
> government agencies don't provide us with those products.  FS, GW Micro 
> and all these other companies that supposedly aim at making life easier 
> for blind people should be ashamed of themselves.  At last now, we have 
> choice and as far as I am concerned, (and this is the case with more and 
> more of us here) we are going to stop buying these overly prices screen 
> readers.  There are so many advantages to using the Mac and all of them 
> have been listed in James and Tony's message so I won't write any further 
> on this subject.  but you guys said it all.
>
> Lyn & Twinny
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