[access-uk] Re: Accessibilty and the iPad: First Impressions | ATMac

Isn't it the case that multitasking is only good if you can easily flit
between the open applications? Alt tabbing between two open windows on a
PC is simple and helpful. If I had to hit a number of buttons to do it
then I might just as well close and relaunch because of the time it
takes.

No?

Just being devil's advocate. Not sure which way I think at all though I
tend to be on the Symbian side. It sounds more cute than useful being
able to flick a screen that you can't feel. But I am toying with the
idea of getting an iPad for general use in front of TV, looking up
stuff, doing a bit of casual shopping online and crucially easily being
able to share a nice usable piece of kit with my girlfriend who doesn't
need voiceover. But then again, it is rather expensive isn't it. 

I can't imagine being able to do decent web surfing on the iPhone at any
speed or with any great one touch control. I've not tried it though. 

But I really would like to be able to have a way of blogging or
contributing to websites while I'm on the train. I have a Netbook but
haven't got my head around which is the best dongle deal. Anyone? Maybe
I should start a new thread on that one. I travel from east anglia to
London most days so not sure if Vodafone or O2 or Orange is the best
network for 3G broadband. And I just don't know how to get a decent
answer to that which is holding me off from buying anything. 

One things for sure though ... It's amazing to see so many visually
impaired people on this list now being able to talk about a number of
rather good mobile solutions. I wonder which will win out? 

...Damon





















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Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessibilty and the iPad: First Impressions |
ATMac

Hi James,

Yes, you can do exactly that with a Symbian phone.  You are as
misinformed about Symbian as I am according to you about Apple <Smile>.

All the best

Steve

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Sent: Sunday 31 January 2010 14:45
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessibilty and the iPad: First Impressions |
ATMac

Hi Barry,
So are you saying that if someone sent you a text message for example
and you were surfing the web, you could ead the mesage and be taken back
to that page on the net or would you have to exit the browser before
hand.? No I don't intend to buy either of them either as they are far
too expensive. So you can navigate between all of these apps at the same
time yes?

TC
James Lyn Nash & Twinny
On 31 Jan 2010, at 12:48, Barry Toner wrote:

> Hi james,
> 
> I do appreciate that you did say that you hadn't personally seena 
> Nokia
that
> did this.  I multi-tasked with my ancient Nokia 6600 about 7 years or 
> more back.
> 
> Now with my Nokia N86 I've Twitter, Podcasting, the net, a file 
> manager, plus lots more typically running at the same time.
> 
> I think the I Phone & I Pad would be a cool gadget to own, but I'm not

> paying the prices they're asking & I'm not being locked intot he Apple

> machine.  Though with all these phones we dont' seem as locked down as
they
> are int he US/Canada
> 
> Barry.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> James & Nash
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> | ATMac
> 
> Hi Steve,
> 
> The cost of the IPhone is certainly prohibitive, but to be fair, I 
> haven't met a Nokia or other phone with Talks on yet that can
multi-task.
Remember,
> Nokia phones and the IPhone are not computers - they are phones that 
> just happen to provide access to the internet - they are not computer 
> replacements. So even though the idea of multi-tasking on a device 
> like IPhone is appealing, if it never happens, it doesn't really 
> matter - at least to me.
> 
> I should also say that Grade 2 Braille is available as an option in 
> the
OS.
> However, people who want to install the OS in a language other than
English
> have the option of using Grade 1. I don't know if you read French, but
take
> it from me, it is not easy to read a foreign language in Grade 2 
> English Braille, especially when that language contains accents. Yes, 
> a word with one accent would not pose a problem, but if you had a word

> with multiple accents, then it gets very confusing - but I'm getting
off the point.
> Your comments about the marketing machine working well are well-made -
Apple
> are extremely good at that - perhaps the best in the industry. They 
> don't make a big deal of accessibility in their marketing, because 
> they believe that it should be a given. In fact, since the early days,

> Mac OS has had accessibility.
> 
> In terms of "tech specs", whilst it might appear that on the face of 
> it,
you
> could buy a more powerful laptop say with 4GB of RAM for less than you

> can buy a MacBook or Mac Mini, it is in fact misinformation. The only 
> reason
it
> seems faster is because of how Windows uses that RAM. Because it 
> doesn't give the user complete access to the RAM, you need more to 
> compensate for the resource needs of Windows. Mac OS X on the other 
> hand is much smarter
in
> the way it operates and gives the user complete access to the RAM. If 
> you put a Mac and a PC side-by-side both with the same RAM you would 
> soon see which was faster. Also, in terms of processor speed - the 
> processors on
Mac
> are more efficient even though they both use Intel. Finally, I'm sure
you've
> noticed, that if you leave Windows running for an extended period of 
> time (despite doing maintenance), the degradation in its performance 
> is very noticeable. This is not true on Mac due I think to it's UNIX
underpinnings.
> 
> Don't get me wrong, I don't hate Windows, I just think Mac is better 
> and I will do everything I can to inform Blind and Visually Impaired 
> people that their is an alternative to Microsoft.
> 
> Also, it is nice to see Tony Sales from RNC pushing Linux, which is
another
> alternative, but I can't really speak for all of its benefits as I've 
> not spent much time with it although I can use it to some extent, and 
> it is something that I am interested in learning more about.
> 
> TC
> James, Lyn, Nash & Twinny
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