Indeed. I only meant to add that to underline this and I suppose add that it is sometimes not possible to access 195 so easily. I wonder if there is a wap version of directory enquiries you can access? again, this is far from ideal as wap browsing using the talks software is difficult on older phones though it works quite well on some sites. On later third generation symbian phones browsing the web is not yet possible though there are rumours it will be. Cheers Graham Graham Page Home Phone: 0207 265 9493 Mobile: 07753 607980 Fax: 0870 706 2773 Email: gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx MSN: gabriel_mcbird@xxxxxxxxxxx Skype: gabriel_mcbird ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Beasley" <p.beasley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 7:16 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: 195 Charges I did say that is wasn'talways convenient. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Page" <gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 6:49 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: 195 Charges > and it asumes you have purchased a PC, a screenreader and have received > appropriate training or mastered using the web yourself. This has > considerable cost implications. > > Regards > > Graham > Graham Page > Home Phone: 0207 265 9493 > Mobile: 07753 607980 > Fax: 0870 706 2773 > Email: gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > MSN: gabriel_mcbird@xxxxxxxxxxx > Skype: gabriel_mcbird > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Beasley" <p.beasley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 6:25 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: 195 Charges > > > Of course you can always go online to find numbers but that is not always > convenient > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Graham Page" <gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 6:06 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: 195 Charges > > >> in that case, we should receive all telephone directories in an >> accessible >> way that should cost us nothing to read. This would prove expensive and >> altimately problematic. A braille version of the phone directory would >> be >> inappropriate and a tape or CD version would take a long time to read and >> be >> impossible to search. >> >> O2 are in fact starting to introduce a number of questionable schemes >> which >> affect blind and sighted people it seems. for example, 0845 numbers are >> no >> longer counted as part of the free minutes allowance which is a problem >> though I know that geographic numbers can often be found as alternatives. >> We have to stick to our contracts that we are bound into and morally if >> not >> legally, companies like O2 should have to stick to theirs. >> >> Regards >> >> Graham >> Graham Page >> Home Phone: 0207 265 9493 >> Mobile: 07753 607980 >> Fax: 0870 706 2773 >> Email: gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> MSN: gabriel_mcbird@xxxxxxxxxxx >> Skype: gabriel_mcbird >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Derek Hornby" <derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 1:42 PM >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: 195 Charges >> >> >> Peter Beasley said: >> >> "I have never used directory enquiries from a mobile, but I definitely >> do >> not think we should be charged. " >> >> Why should service provider treat blind people differently from >> sighted >> people. Is that not against law DDA! >> >> If Sighted pay then yhes we should pay to get same service. >> >> There is a good case to argue that we can not read the hardcopy >> directory, but that really only applies for local numbers!So if the >> number >> wanted was for someone say 200 miles away, why should we have free >> service, >> and tighted don't.? >> >> Regards, Derek >> >> >> >> __________ NOD32 2621 (20071028) Information __________ >> >> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >> http://www.eset.com >> >> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> ** and in the Subject line type >> ** unsubscribe >> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >> ** immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >> ** or send a message, to >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >> >> > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > > __________ NOD32 2621 (20071028) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq __________ NOD32 2622 (20071028) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq