[3ddesktop-dev] Re: very slow (hang) performance in nvidia 1.0-9746

Oh.. automatix is not usually a good idea. Just use the repositories
that are out there, and if you need something installed manually, you
should be doing it yourself. That way you know exactly what you did to
your system.

Automatix circumvents your package management system whenever it sees
fit, and can leave you with no way back to your original setup. It's
very handy when things work correctly. It's very windows-like (format
and reinstall anyone) when it doesn't work right.

My point with compiz/beryl is this: I have had versions of beryl &&
compiz before that were quite reliable. It's certainly not unattainable
to get a stable beryl setup (well, it depends a lot on your video
hardware). When I used to use 3ddesktop for essentially the exact same
effect, I was never afraid to upgrade to the newer version. 3ddesktop
was/is always quality software, even when it had a bug or two (were
there ever two at the same time? The more I think, I don't think that
every happened). Someday I'm sure that beryl be *consistently*
relatively stable, but that day is not now. Someday maybe you'll even be
able to figure out if beryl should be working by simply running
flipscreen 3d. Now *that* would be cool... oh wait, we used to have that


On Wed, 2007-05-30 at 14:34 -0600, wangolio wrote:
> Hi, Jeff.
> 
> i think you are novice, i recomend you to join to UBUNTU and install
> the software automatix this software install the driver nvidia
> correctly and beryl .

7.04 already installs the latest nvidia driver correctly. After initial
install, it pops up and notifies you that you should let it because
there are restricted drivers available.  I can't remember if you need to
enable DRI or not, but that stuff is very easy.  There are still bugs in
the latest nvidia driver that keep beryl from working correctly though.
There are work-arounds, but the nvidia driver seriously impairs beryl
performance at this point (not as much as using mesa only I suppose).
Nvidia has acknowledged the problem, and is planning on fixing it some
day.

> 
> in case to keep you distro please need to you send me the
> characteristics of you distro ,model of video card ,etc. 
> *sorry for my english
> any question please letvme know
>  
> 2007/5/29, Jeff Buck <jeffb@xxxxxxxx>: 
>         So Brad, have you stopped working on 3ddesktop and just joined
>         either
>         compiz or beryl yet?
>         
>         They could probably really use you.  They're flashy, but their
>         stability
>         has never come close to matching 3ddesktop in my experience...
>         I'm 
>         trying Beryl again this week, and it works pretty well... for
>         a few 
>         minutes at least ;).. Then it randomly crashes, often times
>         when I'm not
>         doing anything at all..
>         
>         I know that with full 3d environments coming out now,
>         3ddesktop is 
>         likely to see a lot less use, so I'd like to take this
>         opportunity to 
>         say thank you for such incredible software.  You were making
>         people go
>         oooh and ahhhh for years before compiz, beryl, and vista came
>         along, and 
>         I must say that without the eye candy, I don't think my job
>         would have 
>         been nearly as tolerable these last few years.
>         
>         
>         On Tue, 2007-05-29 at 08:19 -1200, wangolio wrote:
>         > hi, Rick Reynolds
>         > 
>         > you problen is a conflict to the driver nvidia new up to
>         date.
>         >
>         > sorry i´m late .
>         >
>         >
>         > 2007/1/31, Rick Reynolds <rick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: 
>         >         I've had this problem before, but I forget what I
>         did to solve
>         >         it and I
>         >         can't seem to google-up a solution.
>         >
>         >         I'm running nvidia driver 1.0-9746 on a decently
>         up-to-date
>         >         Debian Etch
>         >         laptop.  I've run 3ddesk before with good
>         results.  But some
>         >         changes via
>         >         various upgrades caused the glx setup to goof up on
>         me and I 
>         >         had stopped
>         >         using 3ddesk.  I'm trying to solve that problem now.
>         >
>         >         I've run glxinfo and verified that 3d direct is
>         on.  glxgears
>         >         runs fine
>         >         and smooth.  But when I attempt a 3d switch via
>         3ddesk, the
>         >         whole system
>         >         basically hangs.  I can see that it has acquired the
>         graphics
>         >         and is
>         >         attempting the animation (I'm using the cube
>         effect).  But it 
>         >         is so slow
>         >         that it effectively hangs the machine and I have to
>         kill X and
>         >         restart.
>         >
>         >         How can I troubleshoot this?
>         >
>         >         Thanks,
>         >         Rick Reynolds 
>         >         --
>         >           "You know what the three big lies are, don't you?
>         'The check
>         >         is in the
>         >         mail,' 'I'll still respect you in the morning,' and
>         'the 
>         >         Keyboard will
>         >         be out in the spring.'" -- Jay Leno at the Mattel
>         Electronics
>         >         1981
>         >         Christmas party
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
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