Can you run "ipcs -q" while 3ddeskd is running and once while it isn't and then send the output? Hunch: are you kill -9 3ddeskd? then trying to run as user? With kill -9 the signal won't be caught and the msgqueue won't be removed - which is normally not a problem unless you try to reuse the msgqueue as another user... again just a hunch. try just a plain kill --brad Andy Boyce wrote: > > I have 3ddesktop running as root using --texturesize=256, but when I try to > run it as a user it reports: > > Could not create message queue! Permission denied > > Any ideas? > I, should mention you were right about the screen grabbing, I could not get > any of the xscreensavers that use a screen grab to work, but the texturesize > argument makes 3ddesk run, > ________________________________________________ Get your own "800" number Voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more http://www.ureach.com/reg/tag