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[Evan Silberman <esilbe1@xxxxxxx>]

Thanks Morry.=20

It's it fair to say that, once a site is indexed, it's a greater challenge
to optimize it using the "right" keywords. =20

So, in this instance, the site is indexed under the URL and the Dr's name.
Therefore, will it be difficult to get the site indexed using the desired=
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keyword phrases (i.e. Geriatric medicine)?=20

I=92m asking because I want to be honest with my client. Rather than sell a=
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service that will yield minimal results.=20

What are your thoughts on this?=20

Again, I appreciate your expertise





On 7/9/04 1:16 AM, in article
EKEOLKNLAIANEOJIHOAOKECBCJAA.morry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "morry"
<morry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> The site comes up in the big three engines. You site is being indexed. Th=
e
> trouble is that unless users search specifically for the domain name they
> aren't likely to find it.
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> This is one of the biggest challenges with getting indexed in a search
> engine. Often sites get indexed on key words by defualt not by plan.
> Ultimately a site needs to be indexed for relevant key phrases that peopl=
e
> will use to search for your type of site.
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> Right now the site comes up best if you serach by the domain name or if y=
ou
> search by the Dr.'s name.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: webproducers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:webproducers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Evan Silberman
> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 3:46 PM
> To: webproducers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [webproducers] Re: WPO Event Planning
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> The site has been live for a year. Know that the location of the server
> doesn't factor in, and reading the literature, I have a vague idea why it=
's
> not coming up in search engines...
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> Here's the URL: http://shcny.com/
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> Always open to your feedback.
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> Thanks...
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> On Thursday, July 08, 2004, at 03:13PM, morry <morry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
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>> no shouldn't make an impact.  take a look at the document on the WPO sit=
e.
>> also check the website  spider-food.
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>> is this a newly launched site? it can take several weeks to get indexed =
on
>> sites. you have to wait until the spiders craw through and read the page
>> title tag and site content.  meta tags for keywords are ignored by the m=
ost
>> engines now.
>>=20
>> also if it's entirely a flash site and has no page titles then it might =
not
>> show up.
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>> what's the url?
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>>=20
>>=20
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: webproducers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:webproducers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Evan Silberman
>> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 2:42 PM
>> To: webproducers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [webproducers] Re: WPO Event Planning
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>> To clarify...
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>> The site is not password protected. It is accessible to the general publ=
ic.
>> It's just not coming up in search engines.
>>=20
>> The client built a server and host the site on that server. The server s=
its
>> in his office.
>>=20
>> I'm wondering if, the fact that a site is hosted on a "private" server, =
has
>> any impact on its ability to be picked up by search engines.
>>=20
>> Thoughts?
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>> On Thursday, July 08, 2004, at 01:20PM, Ari Feldman
>> <outdoorminer2002@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>>> i think he means if the site is an intranet...and the answer is no
>>> since these sites aren't publically accessible to the rest of the
>>> world.
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>>> --- morry <morry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> If the site requires a login to access then the search engines
>>>> spiders can't
>>>> get in so, no they won't be indexed.
>>>>=20
>>>> Morry
>>>>=20
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: webproducers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:webproducers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Evan Silberman
>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 12:00 PM
>>>> To: webproducers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [webproducers] Re: WPO Event Planning
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>>>> One question that I have regarding search engine optimization that
>>>> doesn't
>>>> seem to appear in any literature.
>>>>=20
>>>> That is, if a site is hosted on a private network, does that have any
>>>> bearing on if the site is findable by search engines.
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>>>> On 7/8/04 8:01 AM, in article
>>>> 000001c464e3$534ee650$0c00a8c0@xxxxxxxxx,
>>>> "Sandy Macintosh" <smacintosh@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>>>>>=20
>>>>> Concerning the topic, 'designing a site for search engine
>>>> optimization',
>>>>> I would direct you to these newsletter articles as a starting
>>>> point.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> http://www.susansweeney.com/newsletter/hottopicvolume2issue7.html
>>>>> http://www.susansweeney.com/newsletter/hottopicvolume2issue8.html
>>>>>=20
>>>>> This woman is an incredible presenter (but not cheap).
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>> _______________________________________________________________________=
_
>>>>> ____
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>>>>> Sandy MacIntosh
>>>>> New Glasgow, Nova Scotia
>>>>> smacintosh@xxxxxxxx
>>>>> www.prdc.com
>>>>> tel (902) 752-6159
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>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: webproducers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> [mailto:webproducers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Evan
>>>> Silberman
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 8:30 AM
>>>>> To: webproducers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: [webproducers] Re: WPO Event Planning
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>>>>> I think any of the topics listed below make sense. I'm particularly
>>>>> interested in how to turn a freelance operation into a business.
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>>>>> I also suggest designing a site for search engine optimization.
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>>>>>=20
>>>>> On 7/7/04 4:37 PM, in article
>>>>> EKEOLKNLAIANEOJIHOAOIEAACJAA.morry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "morry"
>>>>> <morry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>>>>>> WANTED: YOUR WPO Event Ideas
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>>>>>> I've had a few requests and topic suggestions for an event in NYC.
>>>>> It's been
>>>>>> a while since our last non social event and it seems about time
>>>> for
>>>>> one.
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>>>>>> In the past we co-sponsored events with New School University on
>>>>> topics such
>>>>>> as:
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>>>>>> - The State of the Industry
>>>>>> - The Art of the Proposal
>>>>>> - Usability- "The Scent of Information" (Jared Spool)
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>>>>>> Topics suggested so far include:
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>>>>>> - Complex websites - understanding software project management
>>>>>> - Finding a web producing job
>>>>>> - How to evaluate and hire the best talent
>>>>>> - Understanding technology for nontechnical website managers
>>>>>> - Contractor to Corporation: How to turn a freelance operation
>>>> into a
>>>>>> business
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>>>>>> If there's enough interest in these or another topic I will work
>>>> on
>>>>>> scheduling something. Also, if you have any ideas for speakers,
>>>>> panelists,
>>>>>> etc. for these events please let me know.
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>>>>>> Morry
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