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Katherine, et al-

You know, I also find that a 'requirement' for a CMS solution, is  
that it's sustainable with the client, that is you can just leave it  
and they understand it and are happy.
So, sometimes I give them what I call 'testdrives'.

I have them run around the backend interface of Wordpress and Joomla,  
(and now Drupal)etc.
This helps the client really see the realities of working day to day  
in the CMS.

Some are so scared of Wordpress after taking the testdrive, that I  
realise implementing anything more complicated than that would just  
be malicious.
Or not, some really take to one interface or another. And then being  
clear about the pros and cons and abilities of each compared with  
their requirements.
And then make the decision together.

It used to be, we would just code a site for the client, and they  
would be happy, but there was no CMS and tiny changes had to go  
through us.
Now, with the idea of giving the client more control over their  
content, it's important to include them in on the decision of what  
kind of CMS, because they are going to be the ones working in it all  
the time.

Give em testdrives, I say...

Cheers,
-Sharon

On Feb 27, 2008, at 7:19 AM, Katherine Gray wrote:

>
> Here's what my client is looking for, in general (I've got them  
> working
> on specific requirements right now):
>
> 1. Update navigation, text, graphics
> 2. Import pre-made graphic callouts to mix and match will
> 3. Send info to Eloqua (still fuzzy on this, got them working on it)
> 4. See and manage folder system effectively - this will be a 250+ page
> site
>
> I worry that the blog solutions are just not robust enough. But they
> keep saying "CMS Light!" I don't think they realize how light CMSs can
> be now.
>
> -Katherine
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: webproducers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:webproducers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael  
> Cervieri
> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 4:13 PM
> To: webproducers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [webproducers] Re: request for proposal
>
> i was going to say that without requirements it's difficult to
> recommend a solution.
>
> for example in the open source community:
>
> * a lightweight cms that lets us update a marketing site with blog
> attached to it
> ** wordpress does nicely.
>
> * a community site that where different content is displayed pre and
> post login
> ** drupal's my preferred. joomla, for the most part, is the same
>
> * community inter-communication site, perhaps tied to learning
> ** elgg
>
> * digg like community platform
> ** pligg
>
> it come's down to what you're trying to accomplish, choosing the
> platform that accomplishes the majority of that while simultaneously
> being open enough that you can either develop on top of it, or fuse it
> with another solution that accomplishes still more of your goals.
>
> michael
>
> On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 5:34 PM, Richard Ryan  
> <richardryannyc@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>> To my mind Plone on Zope remains the best (or at least
>>  one of the best) open source CMSes.  But despite its
>>  sophistication and object oriented nature - ideal for
>>  larger enterprises - Plone support remains challenging
>>  for smaller organizations, simply because Python
>>  developers are hard to come by.
>>
>>  For an enterprise-strength proprietary package, you
>>  should definitely be looking at Fatwire's CS7 or
>>  Percussion's Rhythmyx.
>>
>>  For review and ongoing input (including a blog and
>>  newsletter) on CMS issues and vendors generally:
>>
>>  www.cmswatch.com
>>
>>  Regards,
>>  Richard
>>
>
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