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["IE Ries" <featherchaser@xxxxxxxxxx>]

  "Environmental blather?"  Funny that, coming from someone subscribed to a 
WILDLIFE LISTSERV.

  Irene in Southside


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "C. Michael Stinson" <cms@xxxxxxxxx>
  To: <va-richmond-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 7:12 PM
  Subject: [va-richmond-general] Re: Highland County


  Could this list possibly return to being a bird reporting list and get 
away
  from narrow-minded environmentalist blather, and especially the
  sanctimonious comments about the size of people's families?

  Is there a moderator for this list?

  Mike Stinson
  Dillwyn, VA


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "IE Ries" <featherchaser@xxxxxxxxxx>
  To: <va-richmond-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 5:23 PM
  Subject: [va-richmond-general] Re: Highland County


  >   Jeanette,
  >
  >   That's always been my position:  people who insist on having more than
  one
  > child, THAT is being selfish, and not the choice to have none, have only
  > one, or to adopt, or whatever.  As I was telling another list member the
  > other day, nothing irritates me more than when someone pays lip service
  > about the need for responsible human population management, but then
  > IMMEDIATELY follows it up with, "Oh but people will never go along with
  > that."  Too bad, as humans are going to learn the lesson the hard way if
  > they don't do it willingly now, today.
  >
  >   So, I applaud those like you who respect and encourage the truly
  selfless
  > position, promoting and defending it - you're an asset to the planet!
  >
  >   Regards,
  >
  >   Irene in Southside
  >
  >
  >   ----- Original Message ----- 
  >   From: "Peters, Jeanette" <jeanette.peters@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  >   To: <va-richmond-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  >   Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 3:07 PM
  >   Subject: [va-richmond-general] Re: Highland County
  >
  >
  >   I hope that we are, however slowly, growing out of the "Thou Shalt
  >   Breed" mentality. There is still a lot of pressure --especially on
  >   women-- to have kids or more than one kid, regardless of our personal
  >   inclinations. It takes a strong person who knows her own mind to stand
  >   up against the societal messages that say we are made whole only by
  >   having a baby (or two, or three, or...). If we want to see rational
  >   population maintenance, the first step is validating lifestyles that
  >   include one or no children, at least of the biological variety. 
Instead
  >   of condemning the child-free or parents of one child as "selfish," we 
as
  >   a society need to start accepting --and dare I day, thanking-- people
  >   who make these decisions. They make everyone else's lives richer in 
the
  >   long-term (better student/teacher ratios, less traffic congestion), 
and
  >   leave more habitat for our non-human neighbors.
  >
  >   Best regards,
  >   Jeanette Peters
  >
  >   -----Original Message-----
  >   From: va-richmond-general-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  >   [mailto:va-richmond-general-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim
  >   Blowers
  >   Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 9:51 PM
  >   To: va-richmond-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  >   Subject: [va-richmond-general] Re: Highland County
  >
  >   Indeed, population growth is the biggest one of them all, underlying 
all
  >   the others. If population continues without stop to increase
  >   exponentially, NO resource is renewable, not wind or solar or anything
  >   else, for eventually we will demand more out of it than it will give.
  >
  >   Jim Blowers
  >
  >   -----Original Message-----
  >   From: va-richmond-general-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  >   [mailto:va-richmond-general-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
  >   vtsec11@xxxxxxxx
  >   Sent: Tuesday, 2005 May 31 21:42
  >   To: va-richmond-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  >   Cc: va-richmond-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  >   Subject: [va-richmond-general] Re: Highland County
  >
  >
  >
  >   Right on Irene! Well said.  Until we pull our heads out of the sand to
  >   tackle human population problems and our short term, money is 
everything
  >   attitudes.....we will continue to be in free fall. Greg Moser You are
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