FreeLists / tn-bird / [TN-Bird] Re: Possible Pine Grosbeak

[K Dean EDWARDS <kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Also there was a report or two from the eastern mountains
(in the vicinity of Roan Mt I believe) a few years back
(late 1990s or so).

Not sure if they were ever published but pretty sure they
weren't submitted to the Record's Committee.

Dean Edwards
Knoxville, TN


On Thu, 2 Mar 2006, Stephen Stedman wrote:

> There is one Tennessee record of Pine Grosbeak from the Duck River Unit
> of TNWR in the 1980s; this record was published in The Migrant, and the
> species is listed as accidental and provisional on the official list of
> TN birds.
>
> Steve Stedman
> Cookeville, TN
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: [TN-Bird] Re: Possible Pine Grosbeak
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> None other than fossil evidence.
> --
> Chris Sloan
> chris.sloan@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Nashville, TN
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> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: "Bert Harris" <harrijb0@xxxxxxxxxxx>=20
>
>> Dear TNBIRD,
>> =20
>> How many records does TN have for Pine Grosbeak?=20
>> =20
>> -Bert Harris
>> Sewanee
>> =20
>>> A few minutes ago I looked out at my bird feeder (chocked full of=20
>>> black oil sunflower seeds with suet in the holders on the sides) and
>
>>> saw a fairly large bird sitting facing me most of the time. So I got
>
>>> long, fairly good looks at it's front - especially the head. But=20
>>> very little view of the rear portion of the bird and no view at all=20
>>> of it's tail.
>>> The top and around most of the head, chest, belly, and basically=20
>>> most of the front of the bird was a very deep, dark burgundy read. I
>
>>> could see some white on the very underneath of the belly. Around the
>
>>> eyes were patches of darker, greyish red. The bill was dark grey and
>
>>> very stout with a hooked look - more like a parrot than a conical=20
>>> finch bill. It didn't appear to be crossed over like a crossbill.=20
>>> However, I have considered the possibility that it may have been a=20
>>> crossbill - but maybe an immature crossbill? I have never seen=20
>>> either a crossbill or Pine Grosbeak so both birds would be unknown=20
>>> to me. I believe the feet were also dark grey.
>>> =20
>>> The bird was fairly slow in it's movements even when it was eating.=20
>>> Very unlike most small birds which are quick and jumpy when they=20
>>> eat. I was looking out the window at it with binoculars and it was=20
>>> maybe 15 feet away from me.
>>> The
>>> feeder is hung on a tree which is right next to our front porch. So=20
>>> I can get very good looks at the birds there with my binoculars. It=20
>>> looked straight in my direction most of the time. But once in awhile
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>>> would look up at a White-throated Sparrow on a branch above the=20
>>> feeder.
>>> =20
>>> The bird turned slightly on it's side when it was feeding so I got a
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>>> slight view of the wings. Some white on the wings that I did notice.
>>> =20
>>> I figured that Pine Grosbeaks were much larger than this bird, but,=20
>>> again, I didn't see it's tail at all - so I was only looking at the=20
>>> front part of the bird which seemed fairly large to me. However, the
>
>>> bird had most of it's body actually sitting on the tray itself=20
>>> rather than only perched clinging to the side which is how most=20
>>> other larger birds (Northern Cardinals, Blue Jays,
>>> etc)
>>> feed at my feeder. Again wondering if it really may have been a=20
>>> smaller bird - perhaps an immature crossbill or maybe it was an=20
>>> immature Pine Grosbeak?
>>> =20
>>> Hopefully it will return and I can get a better look at it's full=20
>>> length and tail and get a better I.D. of the bird.
>>> =20
>>> I have never seen a Pine Grosbeak in our area, although I know from=20
>>> reading that they are in our area and have been more abundant in the
>
>>> past. But, I'm understanding their numbers have dwindled in this=20
>>> area in recent years.
>>> =20
>>> Barry Jernigan
>>> Murfreesboro, Rutherford County, TN (Burnt Knob Road between=20
>>> Almaville and Blackman - rural residential)
>>> =20
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You are also required to list the count in which the birds
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appear in the first paragraph.
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