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[SI-LIST] Re: soldering plastic balls
- From: steve weir <weirsi@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: Lars Juul <write2larsj@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 11:57:51 -0700
Lars, the technique of using only an outer layer conductor for HF
equalization is well established. There is a nifty interposer connector
technology that uses tiny silver plated nickel balls.
Regards,
Steve.
Lars Juul wrote:
> Hi Steve,
>
> I'm surprised to hear that the primary objective with the plastic core
> balls is to equalize the resistance over frequency, as Sekisui write
> on their product page:
>
> ( http://www.sekisui-fc.com/eng/html/jissou/product/jipr_02.html)
> ...
> Micropearl SOL is a solder plated true sphere with a plastic core and
> was designed for mounting chips to circuit board. Unlike conventional
> solder balls which often cracks under the heat cycle test,
> ...
>
> They go on to show graphs with how much longer these solderjoints will
> hold in temp cycle tests comparison to SnAg alloys, which I feel is
> very relevant in these RoHS times.
>
> However, it's true that at high frequencies the current flows on the
> edge of the conductor (in closest possible proximity to your return
> current), and that the lack of conductor diameter will lead to
> increased resistance closer to low frequencies, but I doubt that it
> will act as a good loss equalizer (I might be wrong, I guess)
>
>
> 2007/6/5, steve weir <weirsi@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:weirsi@xxxxxxxxxx>>:
>
> Lars, the idea of the plastic balls is that they have only a thin
> outer
> conducting layer and therefore the resistance remains much more
> uniform
> and therefore equalizing loss across a broad frequency range.
>
> Steve.
> Lars Juul wrote:
> > Hi David,
> > I would call up your packaging vendor and ask them to make a
> test build with
> > ball samples from Sekisui on existing 10 Gbps BGAs, provided the
> ball attach
> > tool is suitable for this. This is usually the stumbling block,
> as this is
> > very expensive in NRE.
> >
> > Alternatively, it's worth exploring if you make a manual ball attach
> > (possible if the packages are for small form factor 10Gbps CDRs, for
> > instance) by printing solder paste on the package lands first,
> and then
> > manually place the balls on the paste by a trained person with
> a steady
> > hand. I assure you, crazier things have been made.
> >
> > On the other hand, my only concern with this kind of balls would
> be the
> > suitability for them in the power supply, as I imagine the
> current carrying
> > capabilities are somewhat limited if you have a plastc core on
> the inside.
> > (I don't think it's possible to attach solid solder and plastic
> balls on
> > specific lands on the package in a high volume setup, yet)
> >
> > PS: you're asking whether they work at 10GHz, which is a single
> frequency
> > point, I think it's feasible to use plastic core balls for a
> narrowband
> > application, but if it's broadband from 0 to 10e9 Hz you're
> driving at, I'd
> > say, try it out in practise first to see if it flies, then make
> a full wave
> > or macromodel of package afterwards to feed the chip I/O designers.
> >
> > Have fun.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Lars
> >
> > 2007/6/5, david stern <dan1_st@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:dan1_st@xxxxxxxxx>>:
> >
> >> hello all
> >>
> >> I was looking for bga soldering balls technology for an
> >> application working at 5GHz to 10GHZ and and found
> >> soldering plastic balls from SEKISUI. Did somebody work with
> them at
> >> 10Ghz?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> David
> >>
> >>
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