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["Steve Mitchell" <SteveMitchell@xxxxxxxxxx>]

OK, Guys,
                this is not what this forum is for. Lets keep the politics
out of this list
Regards
Steve Mitchell
GullWing Ltd

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Clewell, Craig" <cclewell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bill_hargin@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: <bdewitt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 1:10 PM
Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: just curious


> Bill,
>
> Here is a "micro-idea"....tax the imported cheese so that it is more
> expensive to import than export.  That would make it cheaper to process
the
> cheese here.
>
> Craig
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hargin, Bill [mailto:bill_hargin@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 11:52 PM
> To: 'bdewitt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: just curious
>
>
> Hi Brent ...
>
> > Has this list become the most popular technical list in India
> > in the last
> > few months???
>
> Perhaps ... This is an interesting question.  The Internet, jet travel,
cell
> phones, and commercial broadcasting have progressively shrunk the globe.
As
> the globe shrinks, things that used to happen one state away, now happen
> countries and continents away.  The underlying question surrounding
> previously American jobs going to Asia or other regions parallels the
> "protectionist" (import tariffs, etc.) vs. open market question.  (A
> difficult subject.)
>
> I can't say I have a good feel for how an American engineer should
respond.
> The Indian and Chinese economies are growing faster than ours (in the
U.S.).
> They buy U.S. products, and we hire some of their engineers and call
center
> people to help develop and support some of those products.  (Note: I'm not
> driving this, and you're not ... it's being driven by immutable economic
> forces.)
>
> If I could make a book recommendation ... beyond some of the excellent SI
> books that have been discussed on this list ... it would be "Who Moved My
> Cheese?" by Ken Blanchard ($13 paperback; $10 Audio on Amazon).  The point
> he makes -- in about a 2-hour read (longer, if you read slowly like I
do) --
> is that change is going to happen.  Jobs are going to move from America to
> India, or wherever.  Instead of trying to hold onto the past, though, he
> recommends "following the cheese."  The point is kind of obvious, but
> sometimes the most obvious points are the ones that we habitually
overlook.
>
> The book covers a macro-level point that I believe applies here.  I'm not
> sure what the "micro-level" answer is.  Better training and
differentiation,
> perhaps?  Move to India?  Start a hardware engineers' union?  :-)
>
> We see this in Seattle, where I live, all the time.  Boeing employees
(both
> engineers and hourly workers) want to keep jobs and Boeing's headquarters
in
> Seattle.  So, the company responds by moving the HQ to Chicago, and
farming
> out subassemblies to every part of the world.
>
> I doubt that many people (Americans or otherwise) on this list have the
> inertia or leverage to affect a trend of this magnitude ... Or to stop the
> free flow of information over the Internet, for example ... So the best
> thing you and I can do is decide what we're going to do now that the
cheese
> is moving.  If I had specific (micro-level)ideas, I'd be happy to share
them
> ... Maybe someone else does.  I'm doing well just to keep enough cheese on
> my table ... And it's moved a few times these last 5 years, requiring that
I
> change my approach, and keep my eye on the cheese supply!
>
> Sorry if I'm raining on anyone's parade ... I just think that complaining
> about this type of trend will only slow down a person's ability to respond
> effectively.
>
> Bill Hargin
> Redmond, WA, USA
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Brent DeWitt
> > Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 8:11 PM
> > To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [SI-LIST] just curious
> >
> >
> > Has this list become the most popular technical list in India
> > in the last
> > few months???
> >
> > Brent DeWitt
> > Loveland, CO
> >
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