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["Tracy Barclay" <Tracy.Barclay@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Haikun and Alan,

Using S-parameters in W-elements has been supported since the W-2005.03
release of HSPICE.

If your microstrip was extracted as a differential pair, then you should
have the mixedmode keyword set to 1 in your S model definition.  The
number of nodes in your W-element definition should equal the number of
ports on your microstrip line.

w1 in1 in2 gnd out1 out2 gnd smodel=3Ds_model N=3D4 l=3D2cm
+ NODEMAP=3DI1I2O1O2

.model s_model S TSTONEFILE=3D'mydiffpair.s4p' XLINELENGTH=3D2cm =
mixedmode=3D1

If this doesn't help, please contact me directly and I'll see what is
going on.

Tracy Barclay
CAE
Synopsys


-----Original Message-----
From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Haikun Zhu
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 13:13
To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [SI-LIST] hspice simulation with w-element + s model

Hi there,

Thanks for everyone helped me out about the embedded microstrip line
impedance. Now I got this new question of w-element + s model
simulation in hspice.

I'm trying to produce the eye diagram for a differential microstrip
line. The line ports are numbered like this:

1 + ------------------------ + 3
2 + ------------------------ + 4

I exported the 4-port touchstone file from ADS and throw it into
hspice. Here is part of my netlist

*************** netlist snippet start ********************
* Termination
rout1 out1 gnd 22.6
rout2 out2 gnd 22.6

* Input PRBS
vin1 in1 gnd LFSR (0 1 100ps 6.67ps 6.67ps 15G 85 [7,1] rout=3D3D22)
vin2 in2 gnd LFSR (0 -1 100ps 6.67ps 6.67ps 15G 85 [7,1] rout=3D3D22)

* The differential pair
w1 in1 in2 gnd out1 out2 gnd smodel=3D3Ds_model N=3D3D2 l=3D3D2cm
+ NODEMAP=3D3DI1I2O1O2

* s model
.model s_model S TSTONEFILE=3D3D'mydiffpair.s4p' XLINELENGTH=3D3D2cm
************* netlist snippet end ****************

Now i constantly get the error message
  **error** (S model: (0:s_model) ) near and far end of the line 0 are
not connected. please check the s-parameters and NODEMAP at 0 Hz

It looks to me that it's the problem of node mapping. However, i tried
different mapping orders and still can not get rid of the problem. I
had no problem for single-ended case, no problem for s-element +
touchstone file for this differential pair.

Thanks in advance!

Haikun
Graduate student
UCSD

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