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["Shawn Nikoukary" <shawnn@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Agathon,

It is nice to see some actual solid facts!  I am sure Allegro users will
feel more comfortable with Allegro products and Mentor users will have
an easier time using Mentor platform.  There are companies (that I work
with) using Allegro to design the cutting edge technology and they are
extremely happy with the solution and ease of use and the correlation
results.

Thanks.

Shawn Nikoukary
Cadence Design Systems

-----Original Message-----
From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of agathon
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 1:32 PM
To: si-list
Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Hyperlynx vs Signal Explorer

I recently received a shameless, cowardly  :-)  email asking me to stick
my
neck out and fwd this to the list.
Darn, they know I'm a sucker for danger.
I didn't know anonomyze was a word, even anonymize.  What the heck.
Good
name for a company or a horse.
Anono Networks.

On 1/10/07, xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Agathon,
>
> I get more and more skittish about sticking my neck out with opinions
> these days... but perhaps you could anonomyze mine.
>
> I love Hyperlynx.  It's a brilliant tool because of its simplicity.
It
> allows simple control of the IBIS corners, simple editing of trace
> topologies, it's fast, very easy, and it's relatively cheap.  The
> current probe and eye features work very well.  I always recommend it
to
> my customers.
>
> -mark
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of agathon
> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 12:41 PM
> To: si-list
> Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Hyperlynx vs Signal Explorer
>
> I recently received a comment about just this from an acquaintance:
> ----
> "Short answer:  anyone trying to make full use of Cadence pcb si tools
> for
> interconnect sim and who, nevertheless, recommends it could make good
> use of
> counseling of some kind... or the receivers of that info could make
good
> use
> of a polygraph test on the one recommending.   All this based on 1st
> hand
> experience over time."
>
> ----
> No info on Hyperlynx.
>
>
>
> On 1/9/07, cdomeny <craig.domeny@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > We are considering adding a base-model (<GHz) SI tool to our PCB
> design
> > flow and have looked at Mentor Hyperlynx EXT and Cadence Orcad Sig
> > Explorer. In research, it seems the Cadence tool does not actually
> > perform "physical extraction", but is able to do a post-layout
> analysis
> > somehow. Can anyone help?
> >
> > Hyperlynx "seems" more mature, but cost ~2X. However, we are
concerned
> > also about post-layout, and if Hyperlynx actually extracts the
layout,
> > it seems like a more robust method.
> >
> > Any help, insight, or guidance is appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks, - Craig
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
>
>


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