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[ossrp-control] Re: What Will LongHorn Offer For A Reader

  • From: "Chris Norman" <chris.norman4@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <ossrp-control@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:20:26 +0100
I aggree with both of those.

I also think that e-mail is important (my teachers like to e-mail work to 
me, and I reply with the results), but I think that would have been covered 
in the web browser. I think that graphs (such as excel) would be useful, 
because almost every week in physics I get a graph.

HTH,

Chris Norman
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ryan Mann" <rmann@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ossrp-control@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 9:23 PM
Subject: [ossrp-control] Re: What Will LongHorn Offer For A Reader


> Hello.  I have a couple things that I think are must haves for a screen
> reader.  One is that in order for the screen reader to be useful, it
> should be able to read a word processor  such as Word Perfect, Easy
> Office, Open Office, or Microsoft Word.  I say this because students or
> employed people need word processors to get their jobs done or complete
> term papers.  Another thing that I think a screen reader needs to be able
> to do is to read a web browser such as Internet Explorer or Mozilla.
> Nowadays, students regularly use the internet to do research.
>
> just my opinion.
> Ryan Mann
>
>
>
> On Sun, 24 Apr 2005, Will Pearson wrote:
>
>> Hi Lyn,
>>
>> I think we can accomplish quite a lot.  If I'm being honest, writing a
>> screen reader isn't really that hard depending on how you go about it.
>> There's some factors that do influence how difficult it becomes, such as
>> trying to support every single version of Windows, including 95 and NT, 
>> but
>> fundamentally it isn't a gigantic piece of work in terms of it's
>> technicalities.
>>
>> I agree that the basics should come first, and would like to suggest a 
>> way
>> to handle this.  Within I T project management you can alter any of three
>> things to affect how long a project takes: the features something has, 
>> the
>> timescale in which you wish to release the product, and the resources
>> working on the project, although adding additional resources doesn't 
>> always
>> get the job done faster.  One good way to handle features, and to 
>> prioritise
>> them, is to use a Moscow Matrix.  Moscow stands for Must have, Should 
>> have,
>> Could have and Would like to have.  Each feature is placed in one of 
>> these
>> groups according to it's importance, and worked on in the order of
>> importance.  If you start to need to consider dropping any features, then
>> you start with the would like to have features, then the could have
>> features, and so on.  I'm pretty sure that all the features that come up
>> during this thinking aloud session won't make it into the scope of the 
>> first
>> version, but what I'm trying to do is work out what people desperately 
>> need
>> from a screen reader to function effectively in their normal lives, be it
>> for work or leisure.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Will
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Lyn Eagers" <lists.leagers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <ossrp-control@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 6:19 AM
>> Subject: [ossrp-control] Re: What Will LongHorn Offer For A Reader
>>
>>
>>> I agree thatt we should initially concentrate on getting the essentials
>>> right before expanding to the niceties, eg sound for the various 
>>> windows.
>>> Afterall, if you cann't afford to pay for the best money can buy, then 
>>> you
>>> want something that is practical rather than with bells and wistles.
>>>
>>> But none of this is going to be possible unless we have MicroSoft 
>>> support
>> in
>>> letting us have access to beta or whatever copies of their newest
>> operating
>>> system.   Hopefully, because of US Laws, MicroSoft will be vigilent and
>>> provide us with the necesary resources, maybe for some sort of
>>> acknowledgement in anything that is developed.
>>>
>>> I come from the point of a possible beta tester, totally reliant on 
>>> screen
>>> reading software and a trainer in that field.  I sell the costly screen
>>> reader and magnifier software, but also want poeple not to be excluded
>> from
>>> accesss because of cost.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Lyn
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Tony Broome" <tb777@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <ossrp-control@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 1:31 PM
>>> Subject: [ossrp-control] What Will LongHorn Offer For A Reader
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi, Wil and all.  Well, we've already started talking about LongHorn,
>>> and I think that's good.  By the way, as a little side note, I write it
>>> as one word, but capitalize the L in Long and the H in Horn so as to
>>> make the speech pronounce it correctly.  Now, back to the issue.  I'm
>>> glad to see folks already talking about LongHorn, but here's a question
>>> which might need to be posted.
>>> What does LongHorn plan to offer itself for accessibility.  Surely, it
>>> would be enhanced from Narrator, don't you think?  That one might be
>>> able to build off of what they do would be a jumpstart, but I suppose
>>> that would really be a dream.  Talk has been out that people wanted to
>>> develop Narrator further, but Microsoft wasn't interested.  Again, this
>>> isn't putting down on anyone, but we have to offer these commentaries
>>> to project information.
>>> Still, it would be nice if there were some sort of idea as to what kind
>>> of screen reading capabilities are expected.
>>> As for the earlier post about magnifiers, I too, would like to see an
>>> all-around accessibility solution.  However, it is my understanding,
>>> that there are already magnification applications which are quite good
>>> and are not all that expensive.
>>> Tony
>>>
>>> --
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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