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["David Lant" <david.lant1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Chris,

Any decent source control product worth its salt also includes proper
version control.  If, at any time, a team member screws up big time, the
whole or part of the project can be rolled back to a previous version.

All the best,

David


-----Original Message-----
From: ossrp-control-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ossrp-control-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris Norman
Sent: 24 April 2005 04:35
To: ossrp-control@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ossrp-control] Re: So, where do you want the project to go?


Oh right.

Do you think there would be any benefit in keeping a copy of any source =
code

at every stage somewhere? Because people (my self for example LMAO!) are =

bound to submit code that has bugs in it, or maybe take out portions of =
code

because they think it's redundant or whatever, any of these problems =
could=20
be catastrophic for the project.

Cheers,

Chris Norman
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----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Will Pearson" <will-pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ossrp-control@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 4:16 PM
Subject: [ossrp-control] Re: So, where do you want the project to go?


> Hi Chris,
>
> It's not really security that's a concern.  Source code repositories=20
> give you some useful features for managing the source code when=20
> multiple people are working on it.  For example, it keeps a master=20
> copy of the source code. When people submit their updated copies it=20
> alters the master copy, and if someone submits a copy where someone=20
> has already submitted a change to that
> line of code, it will flag it up and ask them to manually edit the =
master
> copy to take into account both changes.  So, a source code repository=20
> makes
> working with the source code in a project where more than one person =
is
> working on it a manageable task.  There's also other great features =
about
> using one.  It's something you don't really think about until you =
start to
> work on projects where there's more than one person.
>
> In the worst case, we can have the informational web site on one=20
> server, maybe even a shared hosting account, and use Source Forge for=20
> things like CVS, FTP downloads, bug tracking, etc.
>
> Will
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Norman" <chris.norman4@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <ossrp-control@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 12:38 PM
> Subject: [ossrp-control] Re: So, where do you want the project to go?
>
>
>> Ok mate, well give me a shout when you've found one (if you still=20
>> need my help).
>>
>> Could the source code not just be banged on an FTP under the domain?=20
>> I
> don't
>> know how secure that kind of thing is, although I imagine after it's=20
>> password protected, you'd be prety safe.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Chris Norman
>> <!-- chris.norman4@xxxxxxxxxxxx -->
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Will Pearson" <will-pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <ossrp-control@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 12:21 PM
>> Subject: [ossrp-control] Re: So, where do you want the project to go?
>>
>>
>> > Thanks for the offer Chris.
>> >
>> > At the moment, we have a domain name registered, but no server to=20
>> > associate it with.  The problem is, that we're likely to need a=20
>> > dedicated server,
> or
>> > at least a good portion of a dedicated web server, as we would need =

>> > not only a web site, but source code repositories, such as CVS, Sub =

>> > Version,
> etc.,
>> > a
>> > bug tracker and possibly a requirements management package as well.
>> > So,
>> > we
>> > have pretty complex requirements for a web server, although I think =
I
> know
>> > somewhere where I could get this for free.
>> >
>> > So, for the moment we're just trying to find a server to put it all =

>> > on, but your help would be appreciated in creating a web site once=20
>> > we've found
> the
>> > server.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Will
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Chris Norman" <chris.norman4@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > To: <ossrp-control@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 9:02 PM
>> > Subject: [ossrp-control] Re: So, where do you want the project to =
go?
>> >
>> >
>> >> Will, would it be benefitial for me to set up a website for this
> project?
>> >>
>> >> I can get a free domain at www.freewebpage.org/ (granted a sub=20
>> >> domain but...), if you like, I don't know what else I can do to=20
>> >> help you, but that is one of the things, and as soon as I have=20
>> >> learned c++ (don't hold
> your
>> >> breath, we need you LOL), I'll be able to help a lot more.
>> >>
>> >> Anything else I can do, give me a shout.
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >>
>> >> Chris Norman
>> >> <!-- chris.norman4@xxxxxxxxxxxx -->
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Richard Thomas" <rthomas@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> To: <ossrp-control@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 8:56 PM
>> >> Subject: [ossrp-control] Re: So, where do you want the project to =
go?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> Hi Travis;
>> >>> So you're involved in this too?  Not bad, will and you should=20
>> >>> bring
> some
>> >>> fine technical and ergonomic design to the project. If you are
>> >>> serious
>> >>> about
>> >>> something of a large scale, and what I've heard so far indicates=20
>> >>> that,
>> >>> bring
>> >>> in someone with business background, a legal advisor and perhaps =
a=20
>> >>> CPA
>> >>> if
>> >>> one will donate a little time to help you set up the nuts and =
bolts.
>> >>> This
>> >>> will be the glue that will hold the whole thing together when =
times
>> >>> require
>> >>> it so the project will continue despite individual conflicts =
which
> will
>> >>> crop
>> >>> up from time to time.  It will also take care of any questions of =

>> >>> proprietary considerations, Government reporting requirements and =

>> >>> questions of management responsibilities.  If you just want to=20
>> >>> write a program
> or
>> >>> two
>> >>> you won't need to do this of course but the project will fall=20
>> >>> apart within a
>> >>> year or two at most.  A formal structure is the glue, as I =
mentioned,
>> >>> which
>> >>> will bind everyone together over time.  That's why companies like =

>> >>> J&J,
>> >>> Microsoft, RedHat,  et. al. become incorporated.  It's not just =
that
>> >>> they
>> >>> want to float stock but remain in business after the initial =
group
> leavs
>> >>> the
>> >>> company.  As a company the project will take on a life of it's=20
>> >>> own
>> >>> and
>> >>> become it's own individual entity with it's own lifespan =
depending on
>> >>> how
>> >>> it
>> >>> fulfils the needs of it's clients.  This is perhaps even more
> necessary
>> >>> for
>> >>> a non-profit company as there will not likely be full time, long=20
>> >>> term folks in the key positions to maintain a constant and=20
>> >>> consistant hand on the
>> >>> reigns.  Take a look at the MySql site.  That is what you are =
headed
> for
>> >>> and
>> >>> spending some time and effort up front will avoid mistakes. Ps.=20
>> >>> forgive my spelling, I'm not good at it and never have been and I =

>> >>> don't have MS Word anymore to help me.
>> >>> Rick of Farmington Mich. USA
>> >>> Rick of Farmington Mich. USA
>> >>> ----- Original Message -----=20
>> >>> From: "Gordon Montgomery" <gordon@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >>> To: <ossrp-control@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >>> Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 3:19 PM
>> >>> Subject: [ossrp-control] Re: So, where do you want the project to =
go?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> Trovis,
>> >>>>    re: "...I do not fully understand the commentary about=20
>> >>>> Microsoft...."
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If this group is planning to do free work for Microsoft then=20
>> >>>> it's
>> >>>> not
>> >>>> "open source" and I would not be interested.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Open source software is all 100% free....that would include the=20
>> >>>> OS
> and
>> >>>> all the apps.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Just because we all have bought in MS does not seem to me to be=20
>> >>>> a reason to perpetuate the problems.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> g.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Gordon Montgomery
>> >>>> Information design consultant
>> >>>> http://gmeta.com
>> >>>> 512 377 9691 (w)
>> >>>> 512 299 3637 (m)
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
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