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RE: Counterquestion - is Oracle a He or a She - or an It or a hermaphrodite

  • From: "Billy Verreynne (JW)" <VerreyB@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 08:23:08 +0200
Mark W. Farnham wrote:

> So I'm thinkin' Oracle is a high flyin' she, which partly
> explains why she thinks a zero length string is a null
> value but simultaneously understands that a numeric
> zero is not a null.

Null is not a value. Just like infinity is not a value. Null is a
state. Or is it in this case a non-existant state? ;-)

Which is why [NULL != NULL] as mathematical operations are not valid -
state operands are required. Infinity makes this easier to grasp e.g.
[INFINTY != INIFINTY] as the INFINITY "value" is always be greater
than the INIFINITY+1 "value". Thus it cannot ever be a value. It is a
state. Ditto for NULL.

A string that is empty is in Oracle terms a non-existant string. E.g.
with a trailing NULL string column in a table, *nothing* is stored.
NULL simply means that there is no value for that column or variable.

Now you can argue that there's a difference between an empty string
and a null string.. and I will simply point out that this difference
is the same as the mathematical difference between (INFINITY+1) and
INFINITY. I.e. an empty string has no value. Do not think of that
"emptiness" as a valid string value. Sheez, how can it when it does
not contain a single character?

The way that Oracle deals with nulls has always made sense to me,
especially from an OO programming viewpoint. So I honestly do not see
what the issue is about Oracle and NULLs that seems to be an issue for
others.

--
Billy

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