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[opendtv] Re: New French HDTV trials
- From: "Barry Wilkins" <barry.barrywilkins@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 13:32:22 +1200
Yes, all terrestrial receivers will be HD capable as I understand.
Regarding Australia and digital radio, they recently mandated DAB+ which is
supposed to be fully operational in all states by 2009. We are half way
through a 1 year trial of DAB (Eureka 147) in Auckland and Wellington
(November finish) but the understanding is we will use DAB+ as well when
the receivers become available.
Regards
Barry
On 6/10/07, Albert Manfredi <bert22306@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Barry Wilkins wrote:
>Regarding the retrofitting, we won't be doing that as we
>are incorporating H.264 in the terrestrial format from go(early
>next year). We will be going HD on this platform for some
>content.
Good move. I'm taking this to mean that all receivers will be compatible
with an HD bitstream as well.
>What has been the general feedback on IBOC in the US? Is
>there more interest in satellite radio (Sirius)?
I'm trying to gauge that myself. IBOC, which is marketed as "HD Radio," is
fairly well advertized. It must be doing well enough, because Sangean has
already updated their brand new HDT-1 stereo tuner to accommodate the
complaints they got. Amazing. It was first introduced in mid-December of
2006. The updated version includes a digital audio output, bigger remote,
variable intensity in the display, and the display turns off when the unit
is turned off. And, interestingly enough, it also allows "forced analog
reception," something I was wondering about recently. You can force it to
stay with the analog channel, rather than quickly switch over to digital.
I am impressed with the Sangean folk for responding so fast and so
thoroughly to consumer comments.
>I understand from one comment I heard that Canada did not take
>on IBOC because "It simply doesn't work" By this I took it to mean
>interference and extended bandwidth problems.
Don't know what that refers to. I would think the only "doesn't work"
might
apply to the fact that in hybrid mode, which so far is effectively
mandated
by the FCC, the digital signal is 23 dB down in the FM band (and 25 to 35
dB
down in AM band). So in fact, it doesn't work as reliably as analog FM.
One
can't expect it to, at such reduced power. In my home system, it works
very
well. In cars, I'm not so sure. The "main channel" no doubt works fine,
because it can always fall back on the FM analog, but trying to receive
the
digital-only multicasts in a car might be touchy.
And I'm amazed by how good the codec is. In hybrid mode, you only get 98.4
Kb/s for digital stations in the FM band (and up to 123 Kb/s in "extended
hybrid mode," which is now permitted), and that sounds really very good to
me. Over a real stereo, not just on a table radio. And in the AM band, it
sounds so much better than the analog that it's startling. AM band IBOC in
hybrid mode gives you from 20 Kb/s to 56 Kb/s depending on the exact mode
they use.
>Radio New Zealand International has also embraced DRM for our
>SW service to the general pacific region and I believe this can be
>picked up in the US and Europe also. Does the US employ DRM
>for SW broadcasts?
I don't think so. But SW is not very popular in the US. Mostly religious
programming, and important SW broadcasters of the past, like BBC, have
quit
transmitting to North America in SW.
I think one of the bif reasons for DRM is to give the AM band a second
lease
on life, and IBOC also does that. And by the way, the DRM spec has been
extended to 120 MHz, which would make it a candidate for digital radio in
the FM band, which DAB does not cover. All very overlapping and confusing.
Australia is tesing IBOC, I've read.
Bert
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