FreeLists / openbeosnetteam / [openbeosnetteam] Re: Me as well...

[Ksyu & Dima <k2d2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi again,

dreid@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

> Oh for a better windows mail client...
> 
> I don't think we should be aiming to create BONE or network_server. I think 
> we should feel free and unburdened by the past (or convention) to go forth 
> and create something new that works and performs. That is after all the 
> beos way is it not?


Agreed; but we should not repeat the mistakes 
which already have been made by other people (All 
user-space network stack for example).


> 
> I realise a list of binaries isn't an item high on the list of priorities, 
> but often it's important to flesh out a project fully before trying to draw 
> the boundries and the requirements, wouldn't you agree?  As long as people 
> feel free to contribute at the moment and say whatever they feel hopefully 
> we won't have too many "damn, we missed this" type events :)


I will certainly agree with this. What I meant was 
that if we have a stack that is designed with 
Posix- and bsd-compatibility in mind we should not 
have problems (maybe significant problems would be 
better ;-)) porting applications, and therefore 
the list of application should interpreted as a 
test case for compatibility. In other words most 
application like ssh, dig, etc. should compile 
"out of the box" (or at least network part should 
not cause any problems).


> 
> I'd like to think that having posix compatibility would be high on 
> everyones list of priorities, as really the best understood networking code 
> is that using the BSD interfaces, and if we are to have a hope of getting a 
> truly useful network stack we need to be able to test and know the results 
> we expect. Also this makes moving code over much easier.
> 
> We'd all like more native apps, but the fact is that if we allow people to 
> reuse unix-type sockets/network code then the developer can concentrate far 
> more on getting the interface and the usability right - which has to be 
> good news.  We've been blessed with a very good set of highly usable apps 
> for beos, let's see if we can't help that trend continue and grow :)


I think we are trying to say the same thing...


> 
> Man, do I go on at times :)


:-D That was good, though.

> 
> david


Dmitri