[openbeos] Re: New PowerDeveloper developer programme!
From: "Niklas Nisbeth" <noisetonepause@xxxxxxxxx>
To: openbeos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 20:09:53 +0000
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From: "Niklas Nisbeth" <>
Subject: Re: [openbeos] Re: New PowerDeveloper developer programme!
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2006 15:54:24 +0100 CET
"Niklas Nisbeth" <noisetonepause@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> I have one of those too
> It's a great computer, isn't it.. and isn't it quite similar to the
> Mac Mini Ingo is working on? I seem to recall looking at some specs
> and seeing that it's pretty much the same.
Yes, they are pretty much the same hardware. You can already boot
Haiku
on your Mac, but at some point you'll get into KDL because the kernel
can't access the boot disk yet.
I see. But this will change, I hope? I don't currently have a Linux
environment to build Haiku on myself (and I'm not sure I want to try it
on my P3 700 BeOS laptop), but I'd love to help as much as I can
(probably not much!).
>> Also, the Efika share the same broken OpenFirmware implementation
>> with the Pegasos
> What exactly is wrong with?
It doesn't work as advertised; it does not support many basics so
that
it's really hard to work with. Furthermore, some basic functions
(like
memory allocations) are broken when they are available. And to make
it
even worse, it pretends to support it all (because you can check if
certain things are available in OpenFirmware), but in fact, it
doesn't.
Oh, and debugging doesn't work either which makes finding out about
these flaws a rather boring and long task.
Eek. Do you know if this is being worked on? Genesi seem to advertise
the OpenFirmware pretty heavily... and I've always thought of it as
Good Tech... this is a bit of a shock, actually. I was sorta saving up
for an ODW..
-Niklas
PS: Excuse the formatting, I'm having to copy/paste from BeMail cos
the GMail smtp server is being difficult.
On 11/6/06, Axel Dörfler <axeld@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"Niklas Nisbeth" <noisetonepause@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> I have one of those too
> It's a great computer, isn't it.. and isn't it quite similar to the
> Mac Mini Ingo is working on? I seem to recall looking at some specs
> and seeing that it's pretty much the same.
Yes, they are pretty much the same hardware. You can already boot Haiku
on your Mac, but at some point you'll get into KDL because the kernel
can't access the boot disk yet.
>> Also, the Efika share the same broken OpenFirmware implementation
>> with the Pegasos
> What exactly is wrong with?
It doesn't work as advertised; it does not support many basics so that
it's really hard to work with. Furthermore, some basic functions (like
memory allocations) are broken when they are available. And to make it
even worse, it pretends to support it all (because you can check if
certain things are available in OpenFirmware), but in fact, it doesn't.
Oh, and debugging doesn't work either which makes finding out about
these flaws a rather boring and long task.
While Apple's OpenFirmware might not be perfect either, it's light
years ahead in comparison.
Bye,
Axel.
