On 2005-07-23 at 05:14:06 [-0400], Simon Taylor wrote:
> I thought we were on the way to decision. I agree the fully flexible thing
> suggested by Andre has enough drawbacks that it needs much more discussion
> and is not and R1 thing. The discussion here into the pros and cons of it is
> misplaced, I agree on that too.
>
> However, R1 will almost certainly have a new icon set, from Axel's comments
> at least. Michael, you and all of us want to use R1 as soon as possible -
> therefore it makes sense to tell icon designers what the requirements are for
> the R1 icons as soon as possible so that a release is not waiting on the
> designers.
Agreed.
> R1 will likely be fixed to 32x32 and 16x16, I'm perfectly happy with that.
> The only varible left is color space. It seems that the standard
> BEOS[...]_ICON attributes could be used but simply write in more data and in
> that way support 32 bit icons. No API change is necessary but it would mean
> that R1 could use a smooth, modern-looking icon set whilst retaining
> compatibility with old BeOS apps.
I have to ask the question - is it really worth the change? I haven't looked
into the mechanisms the way others have, so I will leave the question of how
tough it is up to them.
> It would make R1 screenshots truly look like an "updated R5", a potent
> metaphor for the changes that have occured under the surface.
Do you really think that lack of colors is the issue holding our icons down?
> ps: I'm completely in agreement on the wisdom of keeping features in R1 close
> to R5. All the problems you talk so proudly of avoiding are simply lying in
> wait to pounce on R2 though. The summary of the ideas that you posted on GE a
> while back actually made me stop following the progress of Haiku for a couple
> of weeks and consider abandoning the whole BeOS thang and just living with
> windows. That's not feature- creep, that's feature-long-jump. Simply putting
> any feature ideas suggested onto the R2 list has actually made the
> feature-creep issue a lot worse than it might be otherwise IMHO, and without
> a very firm hand on the tree post-R1 I really fear what Haiku will grow in to.
BUT that list of ideas was, just that. A list of ideas. The fact that I did it,
I hope, didn't persuade you that any or all of them would be done??? That was
*just* a summary of all of the ideas that had been placed on the GE list since
its inception, rolled up into a neat list so that, when the time comes, they
could be *CONSIDERED* for use as R2. I honestly thought that some of them were
good ideas and I held my nose while typing others (quite a feat, I tell you!).
If something like that worries you that much, you should speak up! :-D
