FreeLists / openbeos / [openbeos] Re: Font sizes

["Simon Taylor" <simontaylor1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

> [...]
> But none of that is the point. R1==R5. 

I'm sure you just do this to wind me up, Michael. Don't listen to him 
kids!

> [...]
> R1 will be better than R5 in many ways

That's more like it. Slight contradiction?!

I do see what you're saying - R1 will obviously not implement some 
fancy new system-wide layout mechanism.

However, it is possible to make apps font sensitive in R5. Yes, it's 
more work than it should/could be for the app developer, but it is 
certainly doable. I have no doubt that the apps shipped with Haiku will 
be font sensitive when we get to R1. Stippi is on the team after all...

> [...]
> But R1 
> is only the beginning of Haiku. Much the same way that a wedding is 
> only the 
> beginning of a marriage. It would be foolish for a bride to complain 
> the day 
> after the wedding that the children aren't raised yet, the house 
> isn't paid off 
> and the retirement plans aren't fulfilled yet. This is the beginning 
> of the 
> journey, not the end. 

I agree completely. That said, it's important that the wedding day and 
night show enough promise that the bride doesn't file for divorce the 
next day!

There's no doubt in my mind Haiku will deliver. I'm looking forward to 
the honeymoon already.


Simon
 
> On 2005-07-08 at 23:24:19 [-0400], Zenja Solaja wrote:
> > I've posted some screenshots of Haiku AppServer running OpenTracker 
> > on a 
> > thread on ArsTechnica battlefront
> > (http://episteme.arstechnica.com/groupee/forums?a=tpc&s=50009562&f=48409524&m=
> > > > 635003524731&r=596004524731#596004524731), and the overall 
> > impression is that 
> > font clipping seems unprofessional.
> >    Can I just urge developers to get the font size and calculate 
> > the
> > clipping width/height before clipping views, instead of using hard 
> > coded 
> > values.  The user will always use a font with a different size 
> > compared to 
> > developers, so chopped text in windows will always happen UNLESS 
> > you enquire 
> > about font metrics before clipping.  Even yellowTab Zeta doesn't do 
> > this for 
> > most distributed apps, and it looks very non professional.  Dont 
> > dispair, 
> > almost every single OS is subject to these clipping issues 
> > (including MacOSX 
> > and Windows)
> > 
> > It's easy to fix this issue, and represents the difference between 
> > a polished 
> > app and a quickly assembled app. Take care with your own apps, and 
> > Haiku apps 
> > will distinguish itself from the others by oozing with quality.  
> > Lets stop 
> > with this lazy practice now.
>