Waldemar Kornewald "The general mailing list will from now on be used for our community and non-development discussions." Now that a few things have been worked out with distro guidelines, developers mailing list, and paypal, it would be nice if we all took a break from openness . How about we wait 48 hours or so just to cool down. I don't know about you, but pages and pages of one topic, some of the posts extra long and meandering off topic are not my idea of fruitful discussion. How about 2-5 days to think on it or make some decision. Maybe the admin group will write up a FAQ or maybe decide to post chat logs in that time. Maybe Michael will give us a shiny new paypal e-mail address or reveal the results of his Waltercon poll. No more of this "wind your neck in yourself" talk. I don't even know what that means. No more arguing for the sake of arguing or "to win" the argument. No more about Haiku Bounties, unless you want to start up a new bounty system, but that one is done with. Thanks to Micheal for dropping that. It's in the past. No more Marketing/Communications isn't "rock surgery" Do you want Koki to program, Axel ? His profession takes skill and hard work too. I think we released a lot of anger but created more as well. Thanks to Czeslaw for injecting some well need humo(u)r. Things done. *dev list is now open *Distro guidelines up *Paypal reoccurring donations Things that could be fixed or improved. To be acted upon in the next 2- 5 days *Paypal e-mail address change would be nice and thank you note *Financial Statement or at least a estimated time of arrival. (Micheal ?) *Waltercon poll results(available online now but only if you vote again???) and further discussions (Michael?) *Admin IRC chat logs or summaries. *How do you join or get invited ? Generalities, nothing "set in stone." We all know how well secret government works. *Haiku Inc. Board of Directors (Guys lurking in the shadows step into the light.) * Who are you ? * Why are you here ? Do you have anything worth... * How are you elected *Can you be voted out or are you set for life? Now all of you admin and board of director people please work on some of these things (plus ones I failed to mention) and get back to us in a few days. Then maybe we can discuss this in smaller chunks, more on point, and concise. Also we can talk like adults and try to keep insults to a minimum after we had some time to cool off. I think if we talk about this anymore as unproductively or as harshly, they'll be throwing chairs or fists at the next Waltercon. May the cogs of this non-profit turn quickly and not crush anyone between its teeth.