FreeLists / openbeos / [openbeos] Re: Haiku Vmware Build Environment

[Stephan Assmus <superstippi@xxxxxx>]

Andreas Färber wrote:
> My opinion is that this discussion which has been going on the last weeks 
> is really tiring. For someone quite new to Haiku like me, it gives the 
> impression that a War of the Websites has broken out, and that is 
> certainly not good publicity for Haiku.
> 
> The distro guidelines apply to everyone, so there's little point in 
> arguing about their applicability. Those are not individual views, and 
> nothing really contradicting regarding their applicability has lately 
> been stated by the developers.
> 
> On the other hand, arguing about how to technically comply with the 
> guidelines on this list is totally fine, no doubt.
> 
> 
> Again in my opinion, it seems strange that someone saying he is not a 
> developer tries to provide developers with a development download. As a 
> developer desperately trying to get started with development on Haiku, I 
> compare said 125 MB to the few KB or MB an incremental svn up takes in 
> practice and consider that they're in VMware format only. But the real 
> contradicting views here seem to be on whether or not to distribute a 
> development image at this stage at all. In short that's the whole Alpha 
> discussion. The Haiku developers have decided against that for now. As I 
> understand it, the "Development" Optional Package is a large step towards 
> that goal, and rather than just settling for and spreading this 
> work-in-progress, some help with reviewing and improving that software 
> would be good, to have the official Alpha finished sooner. For example, 
> it recently turned out that the Perl port is not complete yet. And there 
> is no Subversion optional package yet, which is even directly necessary 
> for self-hosting Haiku. It's not that there's nothing left to do.
> 
> I don't intend to be rude with this or the other post, just results- 
> oriented. And I assume we all want Haiku to evolve nice and quickly, 
> whatever views we might have on "the right thing" to do. Karl knows btw 
> that I like his site in general.

Well said. The effort to bring Haiku closer to Alpha 1 is clearly there, 
especially by Ingo Weinhold who works like a machine on the tool chain. I 
very much regret I cannot be more active to help with bugs right now, but I 
hope to be again next week.

Best regards,
-Stephan