FreeLists / openbeos / [openbeos] Re: little Newsletter-Stats, old OBOS-side and anquestion about mimeset/OpenTracker

[Michael Phipps <mphipps1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On 2004-02-09 at 08:36:38 [-0500], theUser BL wrote:
> At first, I want to say, that I have created little Newsletter stats, what
> you can see here:
<SNIP>
> 47; 17.08.2003;  31; 4  (* 31 high)
> 48; 10.09.2003;  24; 4
> 49; 18.10.2003;  38; 3  (* 38 high)
> 50; 14.12.2003;  57; 4  (* 57 high)
> 
> (* from the actuaklly time a new "record" of time-distance)

Yeah - I know. We know.
There is a newsletter in the works. We have one article complete, another one 
that I need to re-work (it was intended as a status report, but I want to 
share it) and an editorial that needs writing. So it is waiting on me, as of 
late last week. I will try hard for this week. 

> It seems, that the time-distance becomes in the last time more and more.
> (and now we have the 09.02.2004 and still there isn't a new one)
> It is no problem, that the distance between Newsletter-publishings grows
> more and more.
> But with this, there comes - for me - the feeling that slowly the
> OBOS-project died/stopped. :-(

A lot of people say this. We have 20-30 CVS checkins a day. Pretty much 
across the spectrum of kits. We are making some good progress. We are really 
just at a lull between milestones. That happens when you travel a long road. 
That's when the kids start saying "Are we there yet?" and "how much longer, 
Dad?" We are still going at full speed. There is a lot of evidence - in CVS, 
where it counts. I said from the beginning that I did not want to be involved 
with a project that has a glorious website but no code. We are not keeping up 
with the website in favor of making more code. I, in particular, have spent 6 
out of the last 7 days coding. Something I haven't done in a long time. I 
quit doing that to be on the admin side of things. I hope to have stuff to 
announce before too much longer. :-)

> But I hope, that this is only for the Newsletter-part true. And that the
> OBOS-developer are too busy with the OBOS-programming, to have no time for
> the newsletter. :-)
> But that is, what I hope.

Yes! If you are concerned about progress, sign up for the CVS email. I get it 
in digest form. It is 1-3 emails a day. Not too bad.
 
> There existing a side, with CVS-stats, but there stand, that on the end of
> 2003 there comes _a lot_ of code. But since 2002 there comes only a view new
> code. :-(

I am sorry - I don't understand this at all.

> And that brings me to the next point:
> There are some interesting OBOS-sides, where don't existing direct links
> from the webside.
> This are:
> http://g24.com.au/cvsmon/
> http://gravity24hr.com/obosbuild/

These will become part of our new web-site. I decided that rather than to 
bust our humps doing the same work 2X, we would be smart about it. Of course, 
our friends at the IRS are ... helping me to learn patience. :-/

> http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cvstarballs/open-beos-cvsroot.tar.bz2

This is a standard thing for SF sites. I don't know why one would want to d/l 
this, but sure, it exists.

> http://open-beos.sourceforge.net/files/
 
Or this, either.

> The last file was anounced byAxel in the news at
> http://open-beos.sourceforge.net/news.php?mode=display&id=319
> but all four links are don't mentioned neither under "User Info", nor under
> "Dev Central" nor in the FAQs.

Explained.
 
> But it is possible, that this comes all later with the new OBOS-side with
> the new name and so.
> And this brings me to the next subject.
> There existing interesting sides for people with nostalgia:
> http://web.archive.org/web/20010828175045/http://open-beos.sourceforge.net/
> http://web.archive.org/web/20011012230248/http://open-beos.sourceforge.net/index.html
> 
> (I think that it would be nice, if you [when the new homepage existis, with
> the new name an so] creates temporary - or not temorary - a little
> history-side, with the old hompages. Thoughts of the beginning and so on)

We hope to keep all of the archives available. I doubt the old layout would 
interest too many people.

> And at least I have an other question:
> If I start with OpenTracker an program, it looks at first, that it start
> like on the Terminal.
> But that isn't so.
> On the Terminal the program starts direct.
> But on OpenTracker it seams, that it makes _at first_ something like
> "mimeset -f program" with the program and starts _then_ the program.
> But the interesting is, that it does this, without needing "mimeset".
> So it seems, that the code of the program "mimeset" is a subset of the
> OpenTracker-code. Is this right?
> (I think, that this can be interesting for the pref/apps-team, because an
> OBOS mimeset don't exist)

I think that you are seeing the automatic identify of Tracker. I have seen 
this - you download a file and it has the "generic" icon. As soon as you 
double click it, it gets classified and the icon changes. On my machine, you 
get just a quick peek before the app window covers the icon. :-)