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  • From: "Gary MacIndoe" <gary.macindoe@xxxxxxx>
  • To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 08:48:46 -0600
Hey Gene,

Wow, that's the first I've heard of the object/command thing in Mentor.

So if you wanted to move around some parts, you would have to chose a part,
get in the move command, move it, select another part, get in the move
command again, move it, etc., etc.?  That sounds ridiculous!  I hope it's
not that bad!!

Did you find that Allegro was easier to use after using Mentor, or vice
versa?

Thanks for your response Gene.  I can't wait to start playing with EXP to
see what I think of it.  Let me know if I can help you with anything
Allegro.

Regards.

Gary E. MacIndoe
PCB Design Engineer
Advanced Micro Devices
Longmont, Colorado


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Perhaps one of the biggest differences between Mentor and Allegro is the
noun verb method of doing things in Mentor vice the verb noun method in
Allegro.  

In Mentor you select the object you are working on and then the command,
where in Allegro you select the command and then the object (with filters).


I worked with Mentor BS and EXP for 8 years, and have been doing Allegro for
now almost 4 years.  

AutoCAD, by contrast (and not a PWB tool) allows the user to do either.  You
may select the command and then the object or the object and then the
command.  



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I think training is best taken after you've beat your head against the
monitor for a few weeks. Better to know what you couldn't figure out how to
do than just follow along in a demo environment. Then, the trainer is
either gold or... that other thing. 'Course I haven't had formal ECAD
training since Intergraph was a young upstart...

-Chris



 

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> Hey Mitch,
>
> So, there are people in the division that *supposedly* know the tool (I
> still can't get a hold of the contact person I was given), and there is a
> Mentor regional training center just a half a mile from here!
>
Hi Gary,

One thing I'll mention. Mentor training... I took BS training last May at
Mentor G in San Jose. The trainer was a contractor. He the THE TRAINING.
Didn't know application. I'm pretty sure, but don't quote me, that all
training is done with "training" contractors. I also, as I mentioned, took
the ExP training in Longmont. Wasn't worth the price my company paid, but
it gave me 5 days of hands-on tool training without the annoyance of other
design work going on. There's way too much stuff you will have to learn
once you start using the tool and designing your first board (such as
making a board outline for the first time!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA) So, good
luck, and keep smiling.

Good day.

Mitch


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