FreeLists / haiku-web / [haiku-web] Re: Trac (reevaluated)

[Charlie Clark <charlie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On 2006-06-10 at 16:03:42 [+0200], Waldemar Kornewald <wkornew@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Has Haiku picked Trac now? Would it be an idea to learn Python in case?
> > Is it going to be CMS+Trac? (does that mean RailFrog+Trac?)
> > Maybe we can ask for donations to support our server hosting the SVN,
> > it would at least motivate the upgrade to Trac.

Check for the archives for some of the discussion about CMS, etc. Both myself 
and Mikael have experience with Trac. The possibility of integrating Trac 
with SVN makes it very attractive. Don't really care about the CMS although I 
have suggested a Zope-based solution particularly with a view to 
single-sign-on. Now that Andrew Milton has released a patch to run Trac 
within Zope I think this makes even more sense but as I won't be involved in 
producing content I don't really mind. I think we're all agreed that 
whichever CMS should be usable, robust and extensible. When it comes to open 
source CMS that really narrows the choices down. I'm happy that Waldemar has 
taken the lead on this and is so focussed on usability.

As for porting the existing Bugzilla DB to Trac - this shouldn't take long as 
it's already been done.

> Well, I hope that Michael and Charlie get finished more quickly than you can
> learn Python. ;)

Python is pretty easy to pick up. Programmers seem either to love or hate 
Python's syntax.

> Charlie, so you're using RelationalTrac? I hope you will always keep it
> up-to-date.

Happy to keep it up to date on any projects I'm working on but I'm not 
playing catch up with the Trac team.
 
> > People *are* trying to help, we're just not making it easy for them.

What do we need more than anything else is developers. Those who are serious 
about development seem to get up to speed pretty quickly with the existing 
resources. To go by the discussions I follow they quickly are made to feel 
welcome. Personally I don't see the need for a great deal more content at the 
moment: integration with SVN will give a much better understanding of the 
progress of the project but it has to be understood that Haiku is a developer 
OS.

Charlie
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