FreeLists / haiku-web / [haiku-web] Re: Trac migration to AccountManager

["Axel Dörfler" <axeld@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

"Jorge G. Mare" <koki@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> OK, maybe I read too much into your response to Axel. Nevertheless, 
> this
> discussion started with an email from Gavin on March 18, where he
> mentioned the offer from ICS and explained why we had to separate the
> two systems. From the exchange that followed on this list, I think it 
> is
> fair to say that we did reach a consensus that we wanted to move 
> towards
> eliminating dependencies between the two systems.

I actually didn't realize that consequence from the discussion (which I 
obviously didn't read in depth). I still had the previous discussion on 
this very topic in mind which wasn't that long ago, but IIRC on another 
list.
The consensus there was very clear at that point, too.
When Niels worked on the account manager, I was under the false 
impression he did that work to ensure we continue to have a single 
login for both systems - my fault.

> > >  Which is why I would ask again if you could please show some
> > >  flexibility, and went along with our decision even if you 
> > > disagreed
> > >  with it (which we can understand).
> > Well, I think we are hitting a common Open Source problem. Who 
> > decides
> > what? Especially with the infrastructure, that can be a problem. I 
> > do
> > not feel that Axel is vetoing this option, but at the same time, I
> > also do not feel like this choice is a done deal yet. It might be
> > interesting discussing the merits and problems a bit more before we
> > dive in a decision.
> I don't mind discussing, but we have already been talking about the
> merits and problems for the last few weeks, haven't we? This past 
> Monday
> you even asked for feedback on the two available choices. As everyone
> was expressing their preference for switching to a separate login
> system, Axel came and declared this choice unacceptable. That's an
> adamant position. Period.
> 
> As much I would like to think that this choice is not a done deal 
> yet,
> in practice Axel taking such an adamant position narrows down our 
> choice
> to only one: his choice; this is how veto power works for all 
> practical
> purposes. Unless, of course, we are willing to say "well, thank you 
> Axel
> for your opinion" and do what we think is right in line with the
> consensus that we had reached as a group. Do you guys have what it 
> takes
> to do that?

Well, as Niels points out: this is what open source is about. I can't 
force you to do anything, I can just express that I don't like the 
proposed solution (albeit late). I'm obviously someone who cares about 
the details, otherwise I probably wouldn't care about doing Haiku at 
all.
Anyway, if I don't like what you guys come up with it's most of all my 
problem, not yours - all I can do to change that (besides whining/
complaining) would be to join your forces, and work on it myself - 
which I hereby offer to do.

I like Niels' suggestion of the account.haiku-os.org better than having 
two separate databases that synchronize each other periodically. We 
still should have a backup database that is used (read-only, probably) 
whenever account.haiku-os.org is not reachable, though.

I also agree with Niels that we should first continue with the 
migration to the new server, and make that independent from the work 
towards a shared single account for all haiku-os.org services.

Bye,
   Axel.

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