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[gps-talkusers] Re: laptops versus note takers for the blind

From: "Chris Meredith" <tallin32@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 15:15:51 -0700
Are there laptops out there that provide the battery life one would need =
for
something like that (i.e. eight to ten hours) and the portability?  If =
there
are such things, count me in as voting for the reintroduction of =
Strider.
Heck, I'd even help WRITE the blasted thing.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of=20
> Fernando Botelho
> Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 2:54 PM
> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [gps-talkusers] laptops versus note takers for the blind
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> You guys are right on that one; you can add me to the list of=20
> people not happy with machines designed exclusively for the=20
> blind. I rather have a GPS system on the smaller, faster,=20
> more powerful, more versatile, and much cheaper Fujitsu P1120=20
> laptop than on any blind-specific notetaker out there--which=20
> explains why I don't have a GPS system right now.
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> Fernando
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Mary=20
> Ellen Earls
> Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 9:07 AM
> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Out dated pois
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> I actually would like to see the strider brought back in a=20
> windows version because I am becoming more and more=20
> disalusioned with the field of blindness technology as a whole.
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> Mary Ellen Earls
> Remember! Today is the Tomorrow you thought about yesterday.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "vincent" <vinnroc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 4:39 PM
> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Out dated pois
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> > Go Charles there is a bunch of us who can't wait.  I think=20
> there is a
> bunch
> > of laptop lurkers. ---- Original Message -----
> > From: "Charles La Pierre" <lapierre@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 7:18 PM
> > Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Out dated pois
> >
> >
> > > I am always looking at ways to create an Atlas Speaks and Strider=20
> > > again. Charles.
> > >
> > > At 10:36 AM 9/5/2004, you wrote:
> > > >Could this be a consideration sometime down the road?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "Michael May" <MikeMay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 12:35 PM
> > > >Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Out dated pois
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Rich,
> > > > >
> > > > > The maps were discontinued for that format. We could=20
> get updated
> POIs
> > but
> > > > > not maps. There were also licensing and insurance=20
> issues, which
> makes
> > the
> > > > > annual cost about $20,000 before you sell one copy, crazy but=20
> > > > > true.
> > > > >
> > > > > The better solution is to port our current software=20
> to a laptop
> > platform
> > > > > but that too isn't inexpensive in terms of time and=20
> priorities.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike
> > > > > At 03:18 PM 9/3/2004, you wrote:
> > > > > >Mike:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I still have version 1.85 of Atlas and GPS Talks on=20
> my laptop=20
> > > > > >and
> it
> > > >works
> > > > > >great.  True, the maps are somewhat out of date. =20
> How difficult
> would
> > it
> > > >be
> > > > > >to resurrect that with new maps.  Are the new maps addressed=20
> > > > > >quite differently?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Rich Irwin
> > > > > >rich.irwin@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:rich.irwin@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > > >From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > >[mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf=20
> Of Michael=20
> > > > > >May
> > > > > >Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 2:26 PM
> > > > > >To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > >Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Out dated pois
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Chip,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >It is a matter of time and money to port the software to a=20
> > > > > >laptop
> > > >platform.
> > > > > >All the map licenses remain the same as for the BrailleNote.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >However, we also have requests for GPS on the PK, GPS on=20
> > > > > >Keysoft
> 6.1
> > and
> > > > > >GPS on generic Windows CE PDAs. I wish we had the=20
> funding to do=20
> > > > > >all
> > these
> > > > > >things.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Mike
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >At 01:19 PM 9/3/2004, you wrote:
> > > > > > >It may not be possible via the software.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >As I have mentioned before I was trying to develop=20
> a similar
> > product
> > > >for
> > > > > > >laptop users, and I was using MapPoint for it's=20
> mapping data=20
> > > > > > >and
> > POIs.
> > > > > > >MapPoint does not allow you to delete or edit any of it's=20
> > > > > > >list of
> > POIs,
> > > > > > >so all I can do is essentially ask it to give me a list of=20
> > > > > > >its
> POIs
> > > > > > >within a defined radius of a defined point.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >I also added a user POI database, and in that I=20
> was planning=20
> > > > > > >to
> > allow
> > > > > > >edits and deletions, but I too (if I ever could=20
> complete the
> > project,
> > > > > > >which isn't looking likely), would face the same=20
> restriction=20
> > > > > > >on commercial POIs.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >I suppose I could add a second database of known POIs that=20
> > > > > > >are in MapPoint that the user doesn't want=20
> reported, and then=20
> > > > > > >search it
> > each
> > > > > > >time MapPoint gave me a list of POIs, but that=20
> sounds like a=20
> > > > > > >lot
> of
> > > > > > >extra work and extra processing for a relatively=20
> small amount=20
> > > > > > >of
> > gain.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Unfortunately, my paying job has taken up much more of my=20
> > > > > > >time,
> and
> > > >will
> > > > > > >continue to do so, so it may be that someone else=20
> will have=20
> > > > > > >to do
> > this
> > > > > > >project.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >What about it Mike?  With all that experience you=20
> have, could=20
> > > > > > >you
> > > >modify
> > > > > > >your program to work in a laptop environment?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Chip
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >=3D20
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
> > > > > > > > [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On=20
> Behalf Of=20
> > > > > > > > Todd
> > Patkus
> > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 4:23 AM
> > > > > > > > To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > > Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Out dated pois
> > > > > > > >=3D20
> > > > > > > > Mike et al,
> > > > > > > >=3D20
> > > > > > > > If you, Mike, say no about commercial POIs, then, what=20
> > > > > > > >is=3D20  your reason for denying that?  Makes no=20
> sense!  Kim=20
> > > > > > > >is=3D20  correct, so please think twice before saying=20
> > > > > > > >something. =3D20
> > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > >From: Michael May <MikeMay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > > >To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > > >Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 19:30:27 -0700
> > > > > > > > >Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Out dated pois
> > > > > > > >=3D20
> > > > > > > > >You cannot update commercial POIs, only your user POIs.
> > > > > > > >=3D20
> > > > > > > > >Mike
> > > > > > > > >At 06:09 PM 8/20/2004, you wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>Better yet, Can we update an existing poi, or=20
> atleast=3D20
> > > > > > > > rename the poi=3D20
> > > > > > > > >>if need be in the case of a closing or changing=20
> > > > > > > > >>business?
> > > > > > > >=3D20
> > > > > > > > >>----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > >>From: "Kim Lookingbill" <seadolphink@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > > >>To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > > >>Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 4:16 PM
> > > > > > > > >>Subject: [gps-talkusers] Out dated pois
> > > > > > > >=3D20
> > > > > > > >=3D20
> > > > > > > > >>> Hi: - Living in a competitive area for businesses,=20
> > > > > > > > >>> where
> > new=3D20
> > > > > > > > >>> businesses
> > > > > > > >=3D20
> > > > > > > > >>>are opening up almost weekly, while others=20
> are closing
> their
> > > >doors=3D20
> > > > > > > > >>>for a
> > > > > > > >=3D20
> > > > > > > > >>>final time.  What would be the procedure of notifying
> the=3D20
> > > > > > > > map folks=3D20
> > > > > > > > >>>of a
> > > > > > > >=3D20
> > > > > > > > >>>no longer existent business designated at a=20
> particular
> POI=3D20
> > > > > > > > setting,=3D20
> > > > > > > > >>>so
> > > > > > > >=3D20
> > > > > > > > >>>these updates, and adjustments can be made=20
> for future=20
> > > > > > > > >>>map
> > > >editions..
> > > > > > > >=3D20
> > > > > > > > >>>Thanks, and all the best.  - Kim
> > > > > > > >=3D20
> > > > > > > > >>>P.S.: I am aware that Pois can be edited/deleted=20
> > > > > > > > >>>within=3D20
> > > > > > > > your personal
> > > > > > > >=3D20
> > > > > > > > >>>settings on your own BN, but I'm thinking=20
> more on the=20
> > > > > > > > >>>line
> > of=3D20
> > > > > > > > >>>informing
> > > > > > > >=3D20
> > > > > > > > >>>the proper persons in charge of the master=20
> map copies=20
> > > > > > > > >>>so
> > outdated
> > > > > > > >=3D20
> > > > > > > > >>>information is not included on future map updates.
> > > > > > > >=3D20
> > > > > > > >=3D20
> > > > > > > > >>> Kim Lookingbill
> > > > > > > >=3D20
> > > > > > > > >>>kim@xxxxxxxxxxxx (email or MSN Messenger)
> > > > > > > >=3D20
> > > > > > > > >>>Blast From The Past
> > > > > > > >=3D20
> > > > > > > > >>>Sundays, 16 to 19 UTC
> > > > > > > >=3D20
> > > > > > > > >>>Back Stage Pass
> > > > > > > >=3D20
> > > > > > > > >>>Thursdays from 0 to 1 UTC
> > > > > > > >=3D20
> > > > > > > > >>>http://interactive.acbradio.org
> > > > > > > >=3D20
> > > > > > > >=3D20
> > > > > > > >=3D20
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > Charles M. La Pierre CTO
> > > Sendero Group, LLC
> > >
> > > Lat. 37 15' 25" N  Lon: 121 53' 04" W
> > >
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[gps-talkusers] Re: laptops versus note takers for the blind
From: Fernando Botelho

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From: Michael May
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