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[blindipod] Re: Bot Rockbox going on Iriver

From: "Michael G." <commodore128@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <blindipod@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 18:47:12 -0500
Hello,

All I did was find the install instructions.  The actual process of installing 
Rockbox onto my Iriver went without a hitch.  All you're essentially doing is 
copying files from your computer onto an external hard drive.  The entire   
process of installing Rockbox is all done on your computer with the Iriver 
attached via USB cable.  I think the reason some people might say you'd need 
sighted assistance    is so you can compare the button layout of the player 
with the photos included in the Rockbox instruction manual.  Rockbox does 
change   how some of the buttons work.  I'll admit it probably would have been 
easier to ask someone to look at the manual and tell me what each button is and 
what it does.  But I like to tinker and I'm not afraid to try things so after 
playing around with it a little bit, I was able to figure out how each button 
worked.  As I'm thinking about it now, the only buttons I really had to figure 
out was the two buttons   on the face of the Iriver H10. All the other buttons 
pretty much work as you'd expect them to.  You have the On/Off button, and the 
Play/Stop, Back/Forward buttons.  Since you brought this topic up, I've decided 
I'm going to go ahead and do the audio tutorial      on how to set up an Iriver 
H10 with Rockbox. I'll try to do it in the next couple of days and have it 
posted on my site by the end of the week.  Trying to explain this in writing 
makes it sound more complicated than it really is.  If you know what you're 
doing, you could conceivably be playing and listening to music with Rockbox in 
about 5 or 10 minutes. It really is that simple.  If you're completely new to 
Rockbox (which I was) you might have to spend an afternoon on it since you  
have to do some reading and a fair amount of trial and error.  But even with 
that, I was able to successfully install Rockbox without any sighted 
assistance. Now that I've done it though, I can say that if the instructions 
had been just a little more clear and the instructions all in one place, I 
could have installed  Rockbox in 5 or 10 minutes like I mentioned before.  
There are some slight differences in the installation  process between   the 
different H10 models.  The 5 and 6 gb players are considered the same and then 
you have the 20gb unit also.  But all pretty much have the same install 
instructions.  As far as which is easier to install between the Ipod and 
Iriver, I couldn't say one way or the other since I've never tried this with an 
Ipod.  I'm going to guess though that the Ipod shouldn't be all that difficult 
to set up with Rockbox either.  If you want to get a better idea of what is 
involved in installing Rockbox onto one of those players, just go to Google and 
type the model of the music player in quotes and then type Rockbox.  You might 
also want to type the word install.  The first few results should include a 
page that has the step-by-step instructions for installation.  That's how I did 
it anyway.  Hope this helps.

Michael

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Earle 
  To: blindipod@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 5:24 PM
  Subject: [blindipod] Re: Bot Rockbox going on Iriver


  How did you handle upgrading the firmware?
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  Earle, and Peterson, (The Prince)

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    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Michael G. 
    To: blindipod@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 5:36 PM
    Subject: [blindipod] Re: Bot Rockbox going on Iriver


    Hi,

    Same here with my Iriver.  I didn't need any sighted assistance.  There was 
one tiny glitch where I could have went and asked for sighted assistance but I 
was able to get it working alright.  As far as the Iriveris concerned, that 
version of Rockbox installs a display theme by default that causes music to 
skip.  The problem is, the speech can't read the menu that lists the WPC 
themes.  Since there were only 3 WPC themes installed, I just took a guess and 
arrowed down to another theme and selected it.  Whichever theme it was I 
picked, it did the trick since my music doesn't skip anymore. Blind individuals 
won't have any problem installing Rockbox.  Just make sure to read all the 
documentation, follow directions and you should be alright.  Once you get the 
speech installed, you'll find the Rockbox interface to be very intuitive.

    Michael


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      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Ron 
      To: blindipod@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 4:03 PM
      Subject: [blindipod] Re: Bot Rockbox going on Iriver


      No sighted assistance is needed.  I have put rockbox on my Nano several 
times now. 


        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Earle 
        To: blindipod@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 2:35 PM
        Subject: [blindipod] Re: Bot Rockbox going on Iriver


        Did you need any sighted help to install rockbox?

        I heard that you need sighted help, for updating the firmware.
        ----------

        Earle, and Peterson, (The Prince)

        Msn:
        rowdyamerican@xxxxxxxxxxx

        Skype:  rowdyamerican

        Yahoo:  rowdyamerican

        AIM:  rowdyamerican28

        ICQ:  155852055
          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Michael G. 
          To: blindipod@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
          Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 12:58 AM
          Subject: [blindipod] Bot Rockbox going on Iriver


          Hello Everyone,

          Well, after a whole lot of reading and a good deal of trial and 
error, I finally got Rockbox working on my new music player.  It kind of 
surprised me, but there is considerable online support for the Iriver H10 where 
Rockbox is concerned.  I was extremely pleased to find this kind of help and is 
what made my getting Rockbox to work possible.  It is so cool that I can now 
navigate the menus on a device like this and adjust the settings.  I haven't 
yet installed the voice clips so I still can't read the folders yet but I'll be 
getting to that soon.  But I'm extremely happy with what I have so far.  I was 
kind of disappointed though that the AT&T Natural Voices were no longer 
available to be used with Rockbox, but being able to use IBM Via Voice  speech 
was a pretty good alternative.  I can't distinguish it from Jaws speech at all. 
 I still wish they had the AT&T voices though.  Oh well.  The only other 
drawback with the most current version of Rockbox for the Iriver H10, is that 
it isn't able to access the FM tuner or the voice recorder but it is being 
worked on.  So hopefully it won't be too much longer before I'll have access to 
  those features too.  I also need to go back and read how to revert back to 
the original firmware if I want to.  I've tried it a couple of times but I 
haven't been able to get it to work.  According to the Rockbox info, I should 
still be able to use the original Iriver firmware if I want to.  All in all, I 
am very happy with Rockbox and my new music player.  I'm thinking of putting 
together an audio tutorial  explaining how to do the installation and putting 
it up on my web site.  I had to read information from Rockbox.Org and some 
other web sites to figure everything out and it was a bit confusing at times.  
But I think I have a pretty good idea how to do this now.  If anyone is looking 
to buy a new music player and their not sure which one to get, the IRiver H10 
is definitely a good option.  I got the 6gb model, but there is also a 5gb and 
20gb model available as well, all of which I found on Ebay at pretty good 
prices.  Thanks to everyone for your recommendations and help.

          Michael

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game to using your PC. Articles come in  various formats: text, audio, and 
video.  Come check us out.
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            ----- Original Message ----- 
            From: Woody Anna Dresner 
            To: blindipod@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
            Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 7:59 PM
            Subject: [blindipod] Re: voice box


            Hi Brian,

            When you run the scripts, nothing appears to happen - no program 
shows up on screen with a progress bar.  The Lame encoder appears on the 
taskbar now and then, but that's about it until you hear a beep and a dialog 
says it's done.  This took around 15 minutes, I think, when I did it the first 
time on my Nano, so it could take a very long time with the Video.  One way to 
confirm that something is happening is to use the Safely Remove Hardware option 
to try to remove the iPod; you should get a message that it can't be removed at 
this time.

            Another possibility is that your antivirus software could be 
getting in the way.  I have McAfee, and every time I run Voicebox, I have to 
click a choice that says "Run entire script this time."  If anyone knows how to 
tell McAfee to always allow this script, I'd love some help, as it's quite 
annoying.

            Be sure you're running the Apple firmware when you use Voicebox, as 
it will speed up the time it takes to label your files considerably.

            As for your other problem, talk MP3 Clip should be on the Voice 
Directories and Voice Files menus.  You might check to make sure you have the 
latest voice file, at
            http://steve-audio.net/rockbox/
            Be sure to run a CVS voice, not one from Rockbox release 2.5.  Good 
luck.

            Regards,
            Anna
References:

[blindipod] Bot Rockbox going on Iriver
From: Michael G.

[blindipod] Re: Bot Rockbox going on Iriver
From: Earle

[blindipod] Re: Bot Rockbox going on Iriver
From: Ron

[blindipod] Re: Bot Rockbox going on Iriver
From: Michael G.

[blindipod] Re: Bot Rockbox going on Iriver
From: Earle
[blindipod] Re: Bot Rockbox going on Iriver

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