FreeLists / birdky / [birdky] Re: Ky Dam thayeri/kumlieni

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I hope others can see this intriguing bird over the weekend, and find a
bonus bird while looking! I'll gladly have any of my shots that are
needed included in any discussion page. I look forward to seeing Dave's
stills of the bird in flight, to refresh my memory, and see how my
recollection jives with the shots. Regarding Dave's comment about
researching these birds, their is no shortage of Thayer's shots on the
web, but kumlieni and Iceland in general are a little harder to come by.
The Advanced Video Series tape on Large Gulls is a great resource, and
although it's been recalled, the new Gulls of North America, Europe, and
Asia has great coverage on these birds. I think that the North American
section was largely spared the editorial/publishing goofs that caused
the recall of this book.

Good birding!!

Mike Todd
McKenzie, TN
Carroll Co.
birder1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.pbase.com/mctodd


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Roemer" <dlroemer@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "bird ky" <birdky@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 4:24 PM
Subject: [birdky] Ky Dam thayeri/kumlieni


> I have many photos of the gull in question, and it is
> indeed the same one Brainard photographed in January
> judging from the markings.  The photos published were
> taken during very light overcast which lightened the
> bird.  I also have photos of the bird taken the same
> day during heavy overcast with no brightening or
> shadows.  I chose the two published due to one being a
> good side shot, and the other showing how concolored
> the bird looked from the rear.  I also have a number
> of decent video stills lifted from the 17th which show
> the bird in flight.  I haven't had time to go through
> all the images and pick the best ones, crop etc. and
> send them to Gary for publishing yet.
>
> I intend to ask Gary to devote a page to this bird on
> the KOS website, but I won't have time prepare them
> until next week.  In the meantime, everyone who is
> interested can be researching thayeri/kumlieni.
>
> I stepped back from the kumlieni decision primarily
> due to the bird having a relatively solid tailband,
> and some solid areas in the center of the tertials.  I
> don't know the range of variability of these features
> in kumlieni, but feel they are better for thayeri.
> Many kumlieni have some form of tailband, but
> generally not as solid.  I feel that some features are
> very good for kumlieni, which I'll get into later, but
> think the bird is probably an intergrade.  Once we get
> all the images published, we can solicit more opinions
> from authories.
>
> dave
>
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