FreeLists / arachne / [arachne] Re: any "official" website? [was: Bye]

[Pablo Hoertner <pablo@xxxxxx>]

hi ewalt! hi list!

On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 04:38:33PM -0400, ewalt@xxxxxxxx wrote:
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> Arachne has been free for individual, non-commercial use for a very long
> time--maybe ten years.
yes, i know - that means during that time it was not clear, what
would be happen if development by the arachne team, or later by
caldera uk was stopped. it wasn't free in the sense that i could
give it to friends - and let they do with arachne whatever they
wanted - nor in the sense that i could have a look into the code,
change it, improve it (even make it worse) ... or whatever.

by the way, version 1.70 and prior versions still are not free in
this sense, i.e. the freedom of thoughts and information.

> Arachne 2 was never anything more than some ideas Michael Polak had
> for an entirely new version of Arachne. He never got past maybe sharing
> his ideas for this "new version". It's quite dead.
i see, that's a pitty - i like mc a lot and it would have been great
to have something like a gui version of mc bundled with elinks. :)

> There is ongoing development work being done on at least two GPL
> versions. Joe and Ray each have versions they are working on.
oh, i didn't even know that there are two different forks. which one
is mainline, then? what are the main differences?

> No one knowledgable and competent has stepped forward to make a
> "comprehensive" web page. Feel free to give it a go yourself.
alright, i'll try! :)

> You'd have to ask the various authors if you could use stuff from
> their web pages. 
sure, that's what i'll do - gonna report as soon as i've collected
some usefull content.

> Glenn's is the de facto "official" site and the source for new
> versions as they come out.
so, does this also mean, that the two different versions of arachne
just mentioned are being merged by glenn?

again, what about freedos? couldn't there be people who want to help
in this project? wouldn't it be great if arachne was included into
the main freedos distributions? (or even, if arachne-32 was part of
freedos-32!?)

> There has never been a Linux version beyond the rudimentary and
> long abandoned 1.66.
i've seen a screenshot on glenn's site, where he's using it. on the
other hand, i've read a quite critical posting at the freshmeat
project site, claiming that the gnu/linux version of arachne
couldn't really be used? do people on the list have any experiences?

> Someone on this list mentioned the other day that someone is
> working on a new Linux version that might yet see the light of
> day.
ah, great news. so, can anybody report on the status, please? as
mentioned, i'm not a programmer, but if i can help (at least by
finding bugs, writing documentation, debianizing it or whatever),
i'd like to... ;)

btw, is this here the most "noisy" list atm? what about the other
list and the developers' group at yahoo? are they still in use?

> Hope this helps explain things a little.
yes, it did. thank you a lot for your explanations!

cheerio
/pablo

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Pablo Hoertner
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