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["Eric S. Emerson" <wildrice5@xxxxxxxx>]

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Jason,
    The note is both for warning and
for informational purposes. Here is
a copy of one of the lines from
the note:

Quote: However, existing configuration
files will be saved into a backup
directory. (also hotlist.htm and
quickpad.txt)

What that quote means is that the
critical files which the user has
to setup with his preferences and
data are being saved...but...they
are not being used. When an install
is done over an existing installation
the setup program must replace all
files with the new ones to make sure
that all the new improvements are
getting installed. Otherwise problems
like the one Udo had will occur and
the user will not know he is using
an obsolete file.
    That's why creating a new instal-
lation in a new directory is the
safest way to upgrade. It eliminates
all kinds of possible bugs that can
occur otherwise. Then the user can
make a file by file comparison if
he wishes to see what files need
upgrading in his original instal-
lation. It is time consuming but
the safest way! <ggg>  Most users
customize Arachne to their own
taste. That's why they like it! <ggg>
BUT....that also makes upgrading
more complex.
    If Udo had made a new instal-
lation into a new directory then
either he wouldn't have had any 
trouble, or...he would have seen
that there was a bug immediately
because parts of the installation
would have been missing.
Of course we also may not have
discovered the "bug" that got fixed
either. <ggg>

Eric


On Tue, 02 May 2006 19:35:08 -0500 Jason Dodd <jasorn@xxxxxxxxx> writes:
> Arachne at FreeLists---The Arachne Fan Club!
> 
> 
> 
> Eric S. Emerson wrote:
> > Arachne at FreeLists---The Arachne Fan Club!
> >
> > Hi Jason,
> >                       I'm sorry, but I don't understand
> > what point your trying to make.
> >
> > Eric
> >   
> The note says files will be overwritten and perhaps the person 
> installing would like to chose another directory, right?  I don't 
> have a 
> dos machine available now to check.  My point was why not do what 
> lots 
> of installers do and automatically create backups of the sensitive 
> files?
> > On Mon, 01 May 2006 19:29:40 -0500 Jason Dodd <jasorn@xxxxxxxxx> 
> writes:
> >   
> >> Arachne at FreeLists---The Arachne Fan Club!
> >>
> >> Not to rain on the parade but isn't it pretty common for 
> installers 
> >> to 
> >> copy the files to a backup location instead of overwriting them 
> and 
> >> then 
> >> the note reads that will happen and what the location on the 
> backup 
> >> is?
> >>
> >> Greg Mayman wrote:
> >>     
> >>> Arachne at FreeLists---The Arachne Fan Club!
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, 1 May 2006 02:53:05 -0400, Eric S. Emerson wrote:
> >>>
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >>>> Arachne at FreeLists---The Arachne Fan Club!
> >>>>     
> >>>>         
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >>>> Hi Greg M.,
> >>>>                  We put that note there at the
> >>>> beginning of the installation to help save
> >>>> the "installer" and inform him what was
> >>>> about to happen. That way the user/installer
> >>>> can make an informed decision. I hope that
> >>>> a newbie would be smart enough to read it...
> >>>> however...I realize that some of the old fogies
> >>>> know too much already, so....of course they
> >>>> will refuse to read it...and ...some of them will
> >>>> consequently experience some difficulty.....
> >>>>     
> >>>>         
> >>> I was being ironical. But you have summed it up pretty well.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >>>> what more can one do?   Send the "information
> >>>> police" to their door with a restraining order?
> >>>> "You are here by notified that you are prohibitied
> >>>> from installing Arachne until you have sworn to
> >>>> thoroughly read and absorb all installation
> >>>> instructions, under penalty of loss of your
> >>>> modem connection."
> >>>>     
> >>>>         
> >>> LOL! Yeah, that might do it <GGGGGGG>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> .   ,-./\      from Greg Mayman, in Adelaide, South Australia
> >>> .
> >>>       
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