FreeLists / arachne / [arachne] Re: Unifying the sources

["Udo Kuhnt" <048321887-0001@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

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Ray,

> I'm not sure we had a proper vote, and even if we did, I honestly think
> that the people who voted for the status quo have never got my core
> running or even looked at my sources, so it's not exactly an informed
> vote.

everyone has the right to make his own decision. If you want to be part
of the team, why can't you accept this?

> I have *all* of Joe's improvements incorporated in my src except one
> very small one that I didn't like.

Then how come that not everything in your version works like in Joe's
version? You claim that yours is better, but it did not work for me.

> Why patch? Why not simply abandon the old code? My work is a *total*
> rewrite, there is not one in a thousand lines the same. My src
> (working code only) is over 400K shorter than the old due to optimization.

Because that is not the team spirit. If you had wanted to contribute to
the team's efforts, you would not have forked the code. Also, you have
stated yourself that your new code also has new bugs.

> Sure, but a DPMI version built into my sources will have all the
> advantages of both. It's up to you to decide if your work should be
> in clean code or messy, why not make the sensible choice?

Or the disadvantages of both, you can tell?

> Well no one wants to see their work go to waste, but that's a chance

Actually, that is just what you are telling us: Throw away your old
messy code and use mine instead.

> I have taken. I know the odds are against me, most people will always
> go with the main heard. I think that's why Bernie and MHT quit,
> because they think the rest of you won't ever switch. But why
> won't you? Why should the future be spent working in horrible old
> buggy code? Consider how many possible developers are lost because of
> that.

> Why?

> Please give me a reason why anyone should prefer the old sources at
> all? Why cut up a new pair of pants to patch an old pair? Udo, if
> you get my core running, and also look at my src, and you still
> don't like it, then I respect your opinion, but shouldn't you have
> a look first? Compare html.c and putikon.c for examples.

Well, to answer this question, you would only need to look at the
changes I did for the DPMI support. Like Glenn, I usually keep the old
code and just comment it out, so I can see what I have changed and why.
Your "clean" code would not suit my programming style, and so it would
be counter-productive.

Besides, if your code is indeed vastly different, there would probably
be as much work necessary to get all the changes into your sources than
vice versa.

Also, like I have mentioned before, I think that since you have forked
the code, you would also be responsible for reintegrating it. If you do
not want to do this, then separate shall it stay.

Udo

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