FreeLists / arachne / [arachne] Re: code deletions :(((

["Glenn McCorkle" <glennmcc@xxxxxxxxxx>]

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In the 4 years that have passed since I first made that post to the
now 'dead' list at Coollist ... all of the following Arachne releases
have been made.

v1.75, v1.77, v1.79, v1.81, v1.83 v1.85, v1.87, v1.89, v1.90JG, v1.90J1

All of those _and_ the one that Joe is currently working on are compiled
using the 'old dirty' sources.

Let me ask you Ray....

How many public releases have been made which are the result of
your 'cleaned sources' which are in your words......

".... I move forward 10x faster than the old fork,
and the reson is simple -- my code is clean, readable, optimized,
organized, and efficient, it's 10x easier to do some work in my sources!"

If all of that (or even half of it), is true.....

Why have you not made so-much-as a single release ?

If it truely were 10x easier to work in your sources.....
you should have been able to make 30 releases during these past 4 years.

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On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 22:18:58 -0500, Glenn McCorkle wrote:

> On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 00:40:20 -0500, Glenn McCorkle wrote:

>> Good day all,

>> As some you might have guessed.
>> I have been keeping tabs on what's been going on
>> with the postings to the Yehaw group.

>> Since I will not post to Yehaw groups..... I'll say this here.

>> I just made this post at
>> http://www.hi-line.net/~gfeig/adev/advindex.php

>> Concening this post at Yehaw.
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ArachneDevelopment/message/120

>> --- begin CCed post ---

>> ray,

>> I just read your post on the Yehaw group concerning what you are
>> 'thowing out' of the SRC code files.

>> Please, stop for a moment and ponder this..........

>> I have been working with this code for almost 3 years.

>> The number of improvements, bug fixes, feature additions, etc...etc...
>> which I have made is too numerous to put an exact number onto right off
>> the top of my head.

>> Q) How much of the code that I started with did I delete ?

>> A) None of it.
>> That's right... absolutely no deletions were ever done.

>> Every change that I made is via commenting-out of the old section and
>> adding my section.

>> Every one of my changes is fully explained to the best of my ability.
>> (right down to the simple little comments saying what a new variable name
>> is being used for)

>> --- such-as this section in misc.c ---
>> //!!glennmcc: begin Apr 23, 2002
>> //needed for $K
>> char *cfgkw="_";
>> int kcnt=0;
>> //!!glennmcc: end
>> ________________________________________________

>> Q) Why would I keep all of the old stuff that is no longer being used.
>> (some it has not been used since v1.10)

>> A) Simple, all of it _is_ still used.
>> Not in the executable itself but rather by the mind of the person
>> looking at the code.

>> Q) Why would a programmer need to see how it
>> used to be done, but no longer is being done ?

>> A) For the same reason that the old saying came-to-be.

>> If we do not learn from history... we are destined to repeat the same
> mistakes.
>> By seeing how a particular section of code was before and now is...
>> This helps a programmer to better understand why the change was made.

>> It also helps them to find even better ways of doing it.

>> Believe me when I tell you that had it not been for some of those old
>> sections of commented-out code.... v1.71;UE01 never would have come-to-be.
>> And of-coarse... neither would v1.73;GPL
>> (nor the one I am using right now...... v1.75;GPL)

>> Again, please believe me when I say that:

>> EVERY LITTLE TINY BIT OF PREVIOUS CODE IS STILL NEEDED.
>> PLEASE, DO NOT DELETE SO-MUCH-AS A SINGLE CHARACTER.

>> (capitalized for emphisis... not meant to be taken as shouting)

>> ____ end CCed post __________________

>> Comments, suggestions ????

> _____________________________________________________________________________

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