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["Glenn Gilbreath Jr." <wizard57m@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

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Joe,
I'll take this opportunity to point you and others to
a publicly available FTP site, with no limits as to
what you place for all to download and use...
it was made available by a member of the SurvPC group
that also hosts the SurvPC lifeRaft, located at
ftp.tmonroe.com/www
For this "public" access, login with user name
public
Then for the password, again, use
public

That's it!  It works fine from Arachne, as well as Lynx,
FTP-Wiz, the FTP client in the NCSA Telnet package, as
well as the old WATTCP FTP client.  I myself have placed
several files onto the server there.  I thought I had
mentioned this to the various Arachne folks many many
months ago, but it is possible it was lost in the shuffle.
C U L8R!

ps...Yahoo Groups is not all that manageable from just DOS,
and there are many people that for one reason or another
just will not utilize anything Yahoo has to offer.

Wiz  <{;-)
(signature below quoted text)

On ?, da Silva, Joe wrote:

> Rob,

> If you recall, I too voiced my strong support for setting up this
> project at SourceForge. Many people urged me to do so.
> There was only one tiny, itty-bitty, little problem ...

> You can't manage a SourceForge account using DOS!!!

> The only alternative I know about, that allows for both uploading
> and downloading of files, and which can be managed using only
> DOS, was Yahoo Groups!

> That's right, Yahoo Groups was the most DOS-friendly option,
> despite the hysteria we have seen here by the Yahoo-phobics!

> The only person I am aware of with genuine problems accessing
> Yahoo is Glenn Gilbreath Jr. (I suspect this is because he has
> a Geocities account, so he gets extra-large cookies as a bonus).
> Some of the other "Ooohhh, I can't possibly access Yahoo using
> DOS" whingers are misguided, some are just disingenuous and
> trying to play the rest of us for fools. I suggest you open your
> eyes and not be fooled.

> Joe.

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:        Rob [SMTP:robo13@xxxxxxxxxxx]
>> Sent:        None
>> To:  Arachne4DOS
>> Subject:     [a4dos-list] Re:RE:Fw: GPL violation ???

>>  I have to make a comment here, I too am "Concerned'.
>> I don't think I should have to join your "group" to acquire
>> "freely distributed" source code or binaries. Especially
>> at some place like Yahoo. I think the fact that your project
>> would rather use Yahoo than Sourceforge "speaks for itself".
>> In my opinion some there don't really have a clue to the
>> OpenSource spirit, philosophy, or licenses.
>> Rob:
>> --

>>       -----Email by Pine on Slackware GNU-Linux-----

>> On Thu, 22 Jan 2004, da Silva, Joe wrote:

>> >
>> > Yawn!
>> >
>> > Hi Glenn, thanks for passing on this piece of drivel.  <g>
>> >
>> > Since *anyone* is free to join ArachneDevelopment at *any*
>> > time, they can access the sources there whenever they want.
>> > If they can't be bothered, well, that speaks for itself.
>> >
>> > BTW, it is not by my choice that you first have to sign-up to
>> > access the files at ArachneDevelopment, otherwise I'd remove
>> > even this *contrived* "obstacle" to downloading the sources.
>> >
>> > Enough said.
>> >
>> > Joe.
>> >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From:    Glenn McCorkle [SMTP:glennmcc@xxxxxxxxxx]
>> > > Sent:    None
>> > > To:      Arachne4DOS
>> > > Subject: [a4dos-list] Fw: GPL violation ???
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > ----- Forwarded message begin -----
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 11:13:37 CST, "Concerned individual" wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Hiya Glenn!
>> > >
>> > > > I'm sending you this email so that maybe you can
>> > > > forward to the "Arachne developer" list at Yahoo Groups, as well as
>> the
>> > > > Arachne4DOS list at coollists.  Someone, Joe da Silva I believe,
>> made a
>> > > > comment that any updated versions of Arachne could be downloaded
>> from
>> > > > the Yahoo Group site, and only by members of the list.  Now, I may
>> be
>> > > > wrong, wouldn't be the first time, but this is a violation of the
>> GPL,
>> > > > GNU Public License.  No restrictions can be placed upon software
>> > > released
>> > > > under GPL as far as who may or may not download the original source
>> as
>> > > > well as derivative works.  Also, a "changelog" is supposed to be
>> made
>> > > > available in addition to source codes.
>> > >
>> > > > Perhaps a word from you will jar them back into reality.
>> > > > I mean, it's fine if they wish to have a list at Yahoo Groups,
>> > > > however, to use that group as the repository for future Arachne GPL
>> > > > updates is a violation of the terms of GPL.
>> > >
>> > > ------ Forwarded message end ------
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > >  Glenn
>> > >  http://www.delorie.com/listserv/mime/
>> > >  http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/
>> > >  http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/aqc/
>> > >
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Wizard57M
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